Dark Man Cometh???

[CptTrips]

Inhofe = scumbag

And what do you do after a hard day dumping all your assets before letting the little people know how bad things are?

You relax a little by voting to deny sick leave. lol

https://www.kswo.com/2020/03/19/senators-inhofe-lankford-vote-against-coronavirus-response-bill/

[Hungry]

Ihofe too?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/20/republican-senators-sold-stocks-before-markets-plunged-on-coronavirus-fears-reports


It should be a law that anyone serving in elected office should have all their assets in a blind trust (which doesn't mean run by your kids).  Have we learned nothing about human nature over the millennia?

Sen. Dianne Feinstein
Sen. Richard Burr
Sen. Kelly Loeffler
Sen. James Inhofe

Hang em, the only out they may have is if like mine they are in a "managed" account, I don't make the trades and typically don't direct the trades, my Fidelity account manager does, I set up the parameters they do the buying and selling.  I get an email after the fact.

For Burr to hold a "luncheon" and release this type of info it would seem like a breach of Natl Security / Protocol

Hungry

[CptTrips]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein
Sen. Richard Burr
Sen. Kelly Loeffler
Sen. James Inhofe

Hang em, the only out they may have is if like mine they are in a "managed" account, I don't make the trades and typically don't direct the trades, my Fidelity account manager does, I set up the parameters they do the buying and selling.  I get an email after the fact.

For Burr to hold a "luncheon" and release this type of info it would seem like a breach of Natl Security / Protocol

Hungry

I actually don't personally like Feinstein, but her assets were in a blind trust supposedly.  So that one smells slightly less.  Unless there is evidence that she was passing info to whoever was running her trust.  I can't believe any fiduciary in their right might wouldn't report that attempt.  They get paid on flat fee.  It wouldn't be worth the risk for them to play that game.

But you never know. 

At some point there is going to be a reckoning for all this.  There needs to be broad and deep investigations into the delays, the testing debacle, the mysterious stock liquidations, etc, etc.

If anyone has dirt on them, they're going to wish we would just hang them.


There is going to be a vast army of grieving families that are going to demand it.

[FLS]

The head of WHO met with the head of China in January then downplayed the Chinese virus. If you don't think China has power over WHO explain why Taiwan isn't a member.

14,000 people a day traveled from China, before the travel ban, while China delayed notification.

The virus has been here since December at least. There have been a large number of flu like illnesses that don't test positive for flu and haven't been counted as Chinese virus cases.

At least 20,000 people died from the flu like illnesses this season but since testing started we've only seen 200 covid-19 deaths, and the virus has been here for 4 months now. We probably had covid-19 deaths before we were looking for them.

Any early death is a tragedy which is why I believe we should be more serious about flu prevention which would also reduce viral infections.

I'm still optimistic that the Chinese virus won't be a disaster but over-reacting to it will make the cure worse than the disease.

[Hungry]

14,000 people a day traveled from China, before the travel ban, while China delayed notification.

Yes I've read in many stories now that China delaying solid reporting is the core issue in all this, as a side note I read an article yesterday how China is trying to "re-brand" itself as the good guy by distributing health related supplies to countries affected,

China is smart, very smart, I can only hope going forward we never allow China such control again.  I remember I think? in the 80's hearing how the US was moving towards being a "Service" economy not a "manufacturing" economy I knew it was wrong then as it is now. 

The hard part is when the wife asked how does this happen, I responded by saying everyone in the US wants cheaper prices on what they buy, unfortunately it took awhile but now your getting what you paid for.

Hungry

[Hungry]

At some point there is going to be a reckoning for all this.  There needs to be broad and deep investigations into the delays, the testing debacle, the mysterious stock liquidations, etc, etc.

Absolutely, at the very least if not to convict and criminalize, but to review who we deal with, how we deal with them, how we can improve our responses.

If we can better in the future as a country, the loss of lives in some small way will not have been in vain.

Hungry

Hungry

[FLS]

China is selling aid to countries and reporting it as "helping".  It's not a donation.

[CptTrips]

Yes I've read in many stories now that China delaying solid reporting is the core issue in all this, as a side note I read an article yesterday how China is trying to "re-brand" itself as the good guy by distributing health related supplies to countries affected,

The Chinese Gov is scum.  Lets stipulate that up front.  (I don't extend that to normal regular Joe Chinese and certainly not their doctors and nurses risking their lives.)

There was definitely attempts to suppress information by the local party bosses early on.  I think the national leadeship didn't have a clear picture of what they were dealing with at first.  I think they informed WHO pretty soon after they came to the full realization of what they were dealing with.  Only because they realized it was going to get out and there was no way to keep it secret anyway.  Kinda like once the radiation clouds for Chernobyl started drifting over Sweden.  Not gonna sweep that under the rug!

That's not to say they have bee releasing accurate numbers.  I think their numbers are significantly higher than what they've reported and there is no way they are at zero new cases.  Nope. 
They are desperate to get people back into the factories. They need to convince them the virus is beaten.  Then later when it flares back up from breaking quarantine, they can say they go reinfected from US/Europe and the second wave isn't their fault.  Now they can claim we infected you, then you infected us.  Even. 

I'd love to see manufacturing come back to this country, but it's not going to happen.  Companies will seek the cheapest resources to maximize profits.  That's how the Capitalist model seeks maximum efficiency.  That's called the free flow of goods and services.  If you don't believe in that, then you don't believe in Capitalism. 

The only way I see it happening is if fuel costs skyrocket to the point it doesn't make sense anymore to ship tennis shoes all the way from the other side of the planet, or we convert all manufacturing to all mostly robotic factories.  But that won't help regular folks much. 

 

[FLS]

You can make drug manufacture profitable here with tariffs or subsidies. This is why China doesn't like trade tariff Presidents and would prefer someone with a history of bribes and payoffs.

[CptTrips]

You can make drug manufacture profitable here with tariffs or subsidies.

Conservatives used to not believe in tariffs and subsidies as that was the Government interfering with the Free Market, picking winners and losers.

Tariffs and subsides are supposed to be what Socialist countries do.

[Hungry]

Could this be true?

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-19-20-intl-hnk/h_7449e0f9d299c2a4205f5e20ceeef577

One Iranian dies from the Corona virus every 10 minutes

Hungry

[FLS]

Conservatives used to not believe in tariffs and subsidies as that was the Government interfering with the Free Market, picking winners and losers.

Tariffs and subsides are supposed to be what Socialist countries do.

There is near unanimous consensus among economists that tariffs have a negative effect on economic growth and economic welfare while free trade and the reduction of trade barriers has a positive effect on economic growth.

Conservatives and Libertarians understand that there are exceptions when dealing with hostile trade partners.

[CptTrips]

Conservatives and Libertarians understand that there are exceptions when dealing with hostile trade partners.

Well.  If there is one exception, maybe there are others.  Now that you are admitting there are exceptions.

Like maybe healthcare is an exception too?

Who know what's in that exception Pandora's box once you open it.

[FLS]

Well.  If there is one exception, maybe there are others.  Now that you are admitting there are exceptions.

Like maybe healthcare is an exception too?

Who know what's in that exception Pandora's box once you open it.

Simplistic nonsense.

[CptTrips]

Simplistic nonsense.

That's what you always say when you don't have an answer.