Dark Man Cometh???

[Brooke]

I am very reasonable, but I enjoy thinking outside of the box.

That is good, and I enjoy discussing things with you here.

That being said, it is unreasonable to ignore such connections and coincidence as "just happening". If we only took these approaches most of the time, we wouldn't have the science we do already by asking deeper questions.

It is reasonable to be suspicious of coincidences.  Scientists get suspicious of coincidence, but they don't put faith into it without solid evidence proving it out.  When you do science professionally, especially in fields involving more-complicated systems, a huge amount of what you do is looking into coincidences that end up not being meaningful.  Most coincidences end up being from randomness -- i.e., they do just happen.

My reasoning is more like the following examples.

It would not surprise me if it turns out that the origin of the SARS-2 epidemic is the Wuhan bio lab.  Reasons including the physical proximity, that the Wuhan lab was investigating SARS and various other bat-derived viruses, and that infectious diseases have in the past leaked from bio labs (Soviet Union Sverdlovsk anthrax leak, for example).  For that to be the case doesn't require anything outlandish.  It doesn't even take intention -- an ordinary amount of human ineptitude would suffice.  I'm not convinced it's from the Wuhan lab but wouldn't dismiss the idea either.

For things like the importance of number 33; or the Simpsons, Koontz, or the Gates Foundation being in on a plot to cause a SARS-2 pandemic -- I'm not suspicious about those things.  That requires a series of speculations (that have weak or no evidence, or imagined evidence) all panning out for that to be reality.  I give it very low odds.  It would take a lot more coincidence or evidence than that for me to start thinking, "Well, maybe."

If Q anon

I believe Q Anon is a hoax.  Anyone can spew stuff, some of which in hindsight can be matched to real events, some of which is vague enough to fit lots of things, and some of which ends up not being true but is then either ignored or justified with fraught reasoning.  It's like Nostradamus.  Or like stage performers who guess things about guests:  "I'm sensing that something bad has happened to someone you know."

My feeling is that there are main-steam charlatans -- and -- non-main-stream charlatans.  Some people are skeptical of one but completely non-skeptical of the other.  Both deserve skepticism.

[Arlo]

I believe Q Anon is a hoax.  Anyone can spew stuff, some of which in hindsight can be matched to real events, some of which is vague enough to fit lots of things, and some of which ends up not being true but is then either ignored or justified with fraught reasoning.  It's like Nostradamus.  Or like stage performers who guess things about guests:  "I'm sensing that something bad has happened to someone you know."

[Firetech]

Recent article I found that hit some parts of this discussion right on the head. Of course some will automatically dismiss the information for the exact reasons stated in the article.

https://theconversation.com/humans-are-hardwired-to-dismiss-facts-that-dont-fit-their-worldview-127168

Reminds me of another article I read a few months ago about more and more people are becoming "fact resistant". If I remember right, it had something to do dropping a small stone on someones head from a few feet above just to prove that it will fall, hit them and it will hurt. The resistors to facts will do their best to either flat out deny any one of the 3 points made and/or come up a elaborate over the top reason as to why it fell but didn't hit them, that it did hit them but didn't hurt and so on and so on.

[Arlo]

[icepac]

This "acute stage" of the epidemic is dangerous because a significant percentage of the population will be too sick to work simultaneously.

It will eventually give way to "the new normal" where masks and disinfecting religiously are a part of everyday life.

What we don't want is a run on the banks.

Most of the trouble will be caused by morons who react way too late and become desperate enough to decide "there are no rules".

A good early indicator of impending trouble is watching how people are driving.

I've seen it often with hurricanes.

[Drano]

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Lol yeah he really showed us!

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[DmonSlyr]

That is good, and I enjoy discussing things with you here.

It is reasonable to be suspicious of coincidences.  Scientists get suspicious of coincidence, but they don't put faith into it without solid evidence proving it out.  When you do science professionally, especially in fields involving more-complicated systems, a huge amount of what you do is looking into coincidences that end up not being meaningful.  Most coincidences end up being from randomness -- i.e., they do just happen.

My reasoning is more like the following examples.

It would not surprise me if it turns out that the origin of the SARS-2 epidemic is the Wuhan bio lab.  Reasons including the physical proximity, that the Wuhan lab was investigating SARS and various other bat-derived viruses, and that infectious diseases have in the past leaked from bio labs (Soviet Union Sverdlovsk anthrax leak, for example).  For that to be the case doesn't require anything outlandish.  It doesn't even take intention -- an ordinary amount of human ineptitude would suffice.  I'm not convinced it's from the Wuhan lab but wouldn't dismiss the idea either.

For things like the importance of number 33; or the Simpsons, Koontz, or the Gates Foundation being in on a plot to cause a SARS-2 pandemic -- I'm not suspicious about those things.  That requires a series of speculations (that have weak or no evidence, or imagined evidence) all panning out for that to be reality.  I give it very low odds.  It would take a lot more coincidence or evidence than that for me to start thinking, "Well, maybe."

I believe Q Anon is a hoax.  Anyone can spew stuff, some of which in hindsight can be matched to real events, some of which is vague enough to fit lots of things, and some of which ends up not being true but is then either ignored or justified with fraught reasoning.  It's like Nostradamus.  Or like stage performers who guess things about guests:  "I'm sensing that something bad has happened to someone you know."

My feeling is that there are main-steam charlatans -- and -- non-main-stream charlatans.  Some people are skeptical of one but completely non-skeptical of the other.  Both deserve skepticism.

I'll get to Q in a bit. Was looking for this q proof video that came out recently, but it appears it may have been removed. There is so much to it. I've been following it since it started. There are way to many connections to Trump that cannot be Ignored. For example, Q posting a post and then 1 minute later Trump posting a tweet. There are over 5 cases of Trump posting a tweet at the exact same minute as Q at the exact same time. That take some coordination. There are many many more that are even more provable but its going to take me a minute to find that video if it didn't get completely removed by the clowns at YouTube. I cant post pics right this minute. It is highly sophisticated and would have been doxxed by our intel agencies already if it was a hoaxer. Surely they would tell us who is for national security reasons.... right?

Now, I know you think coincidence is a coincidence so it may or may not be far reaching. But what do you make of this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7951293/Bill-Gates-Predicted-Coronavirus-Like-Outbreak-2019-Netflix-Documentary.html

In a Chinese wet market of all places. Damn this guy is good. Too bad he didnt start making the vaccine then....

Then you have timing of that show on Netflix.

Then you have the event 201 meeting with Bill Gates and Corona.

Then you have the UN military games in Wuhan a few months before.

Then you have Chinese Canadian scientists being arrested for transferring viruses to Wuhan.

Then you have Harvard Biochemist dean being arrested for ties to China.

Now.... that may all be just a coincidence around the same time.

To me it screams highly suspicious.

[morfiend]

@ Busher,

  Did you hear about any Canadian scientist being arrested? Because I  sure didnt and it would have surely made the news. Sneaky Canuks getting away with this is a real shame,time to break out the super secret snow balls and prepare for defense.


  My defence is made of wood and 7ft tall,no chainlink for me!! Oh and my 2 bulldog stand on guard for thee.

  Dogs dont catch corona do they??

   

PS: I had them xrayed for bone spurs.

[SysError]

Don’t be complacent, and don’t be an idiot

[DmonSlyr]

@ Busher,

  Did you hear about any Canadian scientist being arrested? Because I  sure didnt and it would have surely made the news. Sneaky Canuks getting away with this is a real shame,time to break out the super secret snow balls and prepare for defense.


  My defence is made of wood and 7ft tall,no chainlink for me!! Oh and my 2 bulldog stand on guard for thee.

  Dogs dont catch corona do they??

   

PS: I had them xrayed for bone spurs.

Start here:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/canadian-scientist-center-chinese-bio-espionage-probe-found-dead-africa

[Firetech]

Great thing is.. they are all being exposed by real internet warriors. So they don't have a real chance of actually doing anything dastardly.

[guncrasher]

Start here:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/canadian-scientist-center-chinese-bio-espionage-probe-found-dead-africa

just curious where did they get that info?

don't feel the need to reply, I know you still upset over having to request a straw.


semp

[DmonSlyr]

That is good, and I enjoy discussing things with you here.

 I believe Q Anon is a hoax.  Anyone can spew stuff, some of which in hindsight can be matched to real events, some of which is vague enough to fit lots of things, and some of which ends up not being true but is then either ignored or justified with fraught reasoning.  It's like Nostradamus.  Or like stage performers who guess things about guests:  "I'm sensing that something bad has happened to someone you know."

My feeling is that there are main-steam charlatans -- and -- non-main-stream charlatans.  Some people are skeptical of one but completely non-skeptical of the other.  Both deserve skepticism.

I found it! 2 hours of Q proofs and connections.



Nothing is real and everything is fake. Everything is just the "vast right wing conspiracy". There is nothing actually going on. It's all just jumbo gumbo.

Keep your heads in the sand and let the culture clowns destroy our country with shows like Gothem, movies like Joker, and music leaders like Katie Perry.

Nothing to see here. It's all fake. The whole world is fake.

nothing is real

[morfiend]

Start here:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/canadian-scientist-center-chinese-bio-espionage-probe-found-dead-africa

 Right,alleged this and that,said to be,etc. zerohedge is a right wing propaganda site that said nothing about arrests.

  Good luck finding my super secret snowball stash!  The little french bulldog will take care of you before you can and since we're a bilingual country my english bulldog will finish you off.



   

[TyFoo]

Start here:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/canadian-scientist-center-chinese-bio-espionage-probe-found-dead-africa

In one article “Sources say Xiangguo Qiu, biologist Keding Cheng, and an unknown number of Qiu’s students were escorted from the National Microbiology Lab” You claim the one scientist was arrested. PHAC called it “an administrative matter”.

The article; “canadian-scientist-center-chinese-bio-espionage-probe-found-dead-africa” yet the article itself says  “Plummer collapsed and was taken to hospital in Nairobi, where he was pronounced dead on arrival” your media source makes no mention of anything suspicious. He was 67, and a self admitted life long alcoholic.

I guess the lack of information or anything suspicious in regards to a guy passing away is our cue to start creating our our own narrative, perpetuate baseless rumor and then pass it along as fact.