What is your definition of a HO? Mine is different im sure

[hitech]

How do you lag a straight approach? 

Best to lead turn and trade the bandit a bad shot for good position.

I was referring to the shoot at other angles.

HiTech

[Drano]

Three words. Flight path separation.


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[Shuffler]

A girl who decorates her barn like a potatohouse.

[waystin2]

A girl who decorates her barn like a potatohouse.

[FLS]

IMO a head on is when both aircraft have a firing solution.

That's a good definition. It respects the front quarter shot.

[The Fugitive]

HO - Head On, HO'ing - head oning??

We don't do HO's. HOing is bad etiquette. The blank blank HO'd me dangit!,

So here is my thoughts on the matter, my approach to HO's and when I call a pilot a Ho..

We all know HO means Head On. Yes. But lets examine it a bit deeper. When 2 pilots engage in a dog fight 9 out of 10 times they are usually facing eachother at distance. As they merge plot 1 breaks one way, the other guy the other way. Be it up and over, or left or right, both pilots are jockeying for a six position on the other. What ends up happening is the 2 pilots end up coming back around into a HO position repeatedly.
Now the examples i just gave above I do not call a HO, I call it 2 pilots trying to get  firing solution on the other. I dont have any issue with this by any means and when Im in my BF110 or HE 152, I will try to shoot you in the face as we pass and at each end over as we find our selves coming face to face again, ill try again to shoot you in the face.
Either you will kill me or I will kill you or we both miss and go around again. I am ok with this because for me, I am going to maintain my arc and flight path and although we are coming at eachother, we will not collide.
The guy I call a HO is the jerk that will intentionally alter his arc or flight path so he collides with you because he doesnt have a shot. That guy is a HO in my opinion. Coming straight at me from 6k and at 1k we each start firing. Then at the last second you pull up or down, altering your path to ram me because you didnt have a shot.. thats a HO in my opinion.

I like to fly the BF110.. i like it alot! Its got 4x20mm and 2x30mm cannons in the nose so heck yeah im going to play chicken with you. I like shooting you IN THE FAAAAACEEEEE.
But... But, i'll never alter my flight path and ram you just because you got the shot angle and I didnt..

Love it, hate it, its all good.. its my view and admitted actions regarding the issue.

Thanks for listening. Its 5:30am and im logging in to go blow some sh........ up. 😁

To me, a HO is just that, a head on PASS. Now to fire on a HO is the question I have. Id rather not fire in a HO. Im looking for a "fight", not a joust. If your playing to fight why try to end it on a 50-50 pass? Will I HO? sure! If you send tracers at me, I know you dont want to fight and will give you the biggest face full from 200 out you could want. Planes are free. If your flying for kills, I guess flying a cannon heavy bird like the 110 and HOin everything in sight is one way to go about it.

In your example above I dont look at it as "both pilots are jockeying for a six position on the other", I look at it as both pilots maneuvering to avoid getting a guy on their 6. You cant shoot a guy when he is behind you. If your at 1000 out and the bad guy is still centered up on your sight, your not looking for a fight, you should already be in a maneuver.

As for the rams, thats all your fault. If your driving your plane strait down his barrels to load up on him there is a VERY good chance your not going to be able to avoid him. You do understand how the game works in a collision right?  If you avoid a collision on what you see on your screen you can not collide. Trying to collide on purpose is pretty hard to do consistently. If you look out a are flying wing tip to wing tip with another guy, he could see you a couple plane lengths away at the very same time.

[svaalbar]

I'm probably a naughty boy but generally will only ho when I have no real advantage or it is a desperate situation like trying to prevent a base take

I like to hit bombers in a ho when I can though. Best way to get them imo

[AKKuya]

The easiest way for fighter jocks to kill bombers.

[FX1]

For me it's when two aircraft can fire on each other.

[guncrasher]

i only ho those who aim their plane at me, otherwise it's a front quarter shot.



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[nickel5]

I would just fly the AR 234 and wouldn’t have any problems being called a Ho, or Ho’er ! Just give them my 6 and Poof! How you like them apples? Lol
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[Vulcan]

I fly the Yak 9T and HO deliberately. That 37mm can make a mess of you from 3k out, I think the longest HO hit I had was from 1.5k (I think it was JD66), cut his pony in half.

[atlau]

I would just fly the AR 234 and wouldn’t have any problems being called a Ho, or Ho’er ! Just give them my 6 and Poof! How you like them apples? Lol
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Nkl5 you coming back?

[scott66]

IMO a head on is when both aircraft have a firing solution.

that's exactly what I was gonna say! +1

[TWCAxew]

To me, a HO is just that, a head on PASS. Now to fire on a HO is the question I have. Id rather not fire in a HO. Im looking for a "fight", not a joust. If your playing to fight why try to end it on a 50-50 pass? Will I HO? sure! If you send tracers at me, I know you dont want to fight and will give you the biggest face full from 200 out you could want. Planes are free. If your flying for kills, I guess flying a cannon heavy bird like the 110 and HOin everything in sight is one way to go about it.

In your example above I dont look at it as "both pilots are jockeying for a six position on the other", I look at it as both pilots maneuvering to avoid getting a guy on their 6. You cant shoot a guy when he is behind you. If your at 1000 out and the bad guy is still centered up on your sight, your not looking for a fight, you should already be in a maneuver.

As for the rams, thats all your fault. If your driving your plane strait down his barrels to load up on him there is a VERY good chance your not going to be able to avoid him. You do understand how the game works in a collision right?  If you avoid a collision on what you see on your screen you can not collide. Trying to collide on purpose is pretty hard to do consistently. If you look out a are flying wing tip to wing tip with another guy, he could see you a couple plane lengths away at the very same time.

I am with fugi!

But i got to say ppl dont understand the 110 as they should and at the right speeds and technic its beats spits in a turnfight.

HOing teaches bad habits, it doesnt make you a better pilot in the long run. Fighting for position does.

 

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