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Sullly Day
« on: January 14, 2021, 05:15:29 PM »
During this time of torment, we as pilots, both virtual and real, might want to pause to remember that 12 years ago tomorrow, Captain Chesley Sullenberger and First Officer Jeff Skiles demonstrated exceptional cool and skill to save 155 lives.
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Re: Sullly Day
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2021, 05:20:11 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2021, 05:31:18 PM »
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Re: Sullly Day
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2021, 07:23:34 PM »
Overrated.   To quote a fellow Captain friend, “Of course they landed in the river.  Where else were they gonna go?”

I did this exact thing in the simulator years before they did it. 

Skiles I have no beef with.  Sullnenberger just likes to hear himself talk. 

/Rant
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2021, 07:37:46 PM »

I did this exact thing in the simulator years before they did it. 


Right...

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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2021, 09:04:11 PM »
Right...

Nobody talks about brave men in their proud simulators.

How do you think we learn to do the right thing when the situation goes Tango Uniform?

I flew jets with an ex-freight dog early in my career who impressed upon me the importance of always looking for a place to go if both engines quit.   Why did he do that?  Because it happened to him decades before Sully and Skiles.

People can be lulled into complacency with the reliability of modern airplanes, particularly jets.  I learned a very important lesson from him that day and I’ve passed it along to every F/O I’ve flown with.

As for this particular crew...   Any ATP worth his salt could do what they did.    If not then they have no business in that cockpit. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2021, 09:36:11 PM »
Overrated.   To quote a fellow Captain friend, “Of course they landed in the river.  Where else were they gonna go?”

I did this exact thing in the simulator years before they did it. 

Skiles I have no beef with.  Sullnenberger just likes to hear himself talk. 

/Rant

you did it in a simulation, what's the worst thing that could have happened to you, fellow pilots make fun of you at the bar?

he did it in real life, he could have died or get some passengers killed.

I just simplified it but you risked nothing and yes it did prepares you for real life.  no need to diminish what he did.

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Re: Sullly Day
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2021, 09:42:29 PM »
Overrated.   To quote a fellow Captain friend, “Of course they landed in the river.  Where else were they gonna go?”

I did this exact thing in the simulator years before they did it. 

Skiles I have no beef with.  Sullnenberger just likes to hear himself talk. 

/Rant
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2021, 10:06:19 PM »
you did it in a simulation, what's the worst thing that could have happened to you, fellow pilots make fun of you at the bar?

he did it in real life, he could have died or get some passengers killed.

I just simplified it but you risked nothing and yes it did prepares you for real life.  no need to diminish what he did.

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Simulators can do things you’ll never see in real life until it happens the first time.   By then it may be too late.   And frankly, simulators can be much harder to fly than the real thing.   

Risked nothing?    I risk my career every time I step foot in a simulator.   And I risk my life every single time I say, “Check Thrust.”

What he did is what any well-trained pilot would do, but in our society of uninformed reality tv zombies he became the Second Coming.   Rather than be humble, he got the big ego stroke and proceeded to wear out his 15 minutes in about six flat.      It’s slightly pathetic. 

Bravo.  Good job.   Move along.  He believed his own press and became a spectacle—and not for the good.

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Re: Sullly Day
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2021, 10:15:19 PM »

no need to diminish what he did.

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Spot on Semp. . . . . . .

I Salute Sully and Skiles  :salute

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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2021, 10:15:28 PM »
Simulators can do things you’ll never see in real life until it happens the first time.   By then it may be too late.   And frankly, simulators can be much harder to fly than the real thing.   

Risked nothing?    I risk my career every time I step foot in a simulator.   And I risk my life every single time I say, “Check Thrust.”

What he did is what any well-trained pilot would do, but in our society of uninformed reality tv zombies he became the Second Coming.   Rather than be humble, he got the big ego stroke and proceeded to wear out his 15 minutes in about six flat.      It’s slightly pathetic. 

Bravo.  Good job.   Move along.  He believed his own press and became a spectacle—and not for the good.

yes, your career is more important.


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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2021, 10:32:34 PM »
yes, your career is more important.


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I’m the first one to the crash site.   Perhaps you missed that part.

I’m also one of the guys who trains the Sullys of the world. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2021, 10:34:03 PM »
Spot on Semp. . . . . . .

I Salute Sully and Skiles  :salute

Spot on what?

“No need to inflate what they did.”

There.  Fixed it.   

It’s utterly astounding that ditching in a river instead of hitting a building is now a bigger achievement than walking on the moon.   “The soft bigotry of low expectations.”
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2021, 10:42:59 PM »
Spot on what?

“No need to inflate what they did.”

There.  Fixed it.   

It’s utterly astounding that ditching in a river instead of hitting a building is now a bigger achievement than walking on the moon.   “The soft bigotry of low expectations.”

this quote really scares the crap out of me. think you train pilots, this is the reason why next time i go to Europe I'm driving there.

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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 11:03:20 PM »
I’m the first one to the crash site.   Perhaps you missed that part.

I’m also one of the guys who trains the Sullys of the world.
no you aren't, the plane and everybody on board is.

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