Turn off Killshooter, or at least modify it

[TequilaChaser]

So, if Jerk0ff69 deliberately shoots me, I become png and grounded?

Unintended consequences.....   

I like the idea of a system message for causing a friendly to take killshooter damage.  As it is, you don't really know that you caused damage to a friendly unless he <cough> "mentions" it.  Instead of a system message, it could be a distinctive "hit" sound.  (Apparently, there is no hit sound from friendly fire.)

No Kong,  maybe I didn't explain/ word what I meant or was too sleepy when I posted,  I was falling asleep after being up since yesterday, flew scenario then went to close friends home to start watching the ppv MMA fights last night (and what some great fights for the most part both preliminaries and the main event)

DJ(Dublin Jr.) My dog Just jumped all over onto of me barking waking me up hahaha, I  need coffee....dangit, could have slept a good 4 hrs more if I had just went and closed the shades (blinds) before I went to sleep

[Slate]

  Some have respect the pilot on the enemies 6 and just fly a lag in case of overshoot then the shot is theirs to take. Many a time when someone clears someones 12 they get a rash of vox if they deserve it. You can't mandate honor.
  Other times it's just 2 pilots trying to occupy the same airspace in a furball. It has gotten me a few times but Very rare I find kill shooter a problem.
 

[captain1ma]

in monday night madness we shut off killshooter. you'll get the occasional "you shot me down" with the immediate reply of "well dont fly in front of me when im firing!"
the difference is that in monday night madness, we're all friendly and happy!

yes killshooter can be turned off, the question is, should it? in the MA, NOT ON A BET!!

[svaalbar]

Im dumb.

[1stpar3]

in monday night madness we shut off killshooter. you'll get the occasional "you shot me down" with the immediate reply of "well dont fly in front of me when im firing!"
the difference is that in monday night madness, we're all friendly and happy!

yes killshooter can be turned off, the question is, should it? in the MA, NOT ON A BET!!

DAMN CLOUD ANOMILY!!! That is the biggest culprit, imho! I have tagged ULBlizz a time or 2(at least she didnt tell my Sis )...and denied Red Guys the kill! Happened just the other Monday(Mothman is my BW squaddie)!!! Moral of this story...If the AA isnt shooting, dont rock the Allie ? ZERO Fs GIVEN!!! Still funny!!!! We might have some Attendees, that are a challenge to deal with...but it works. Also best $15 bucks I ever spend!! Most prevalent on Coms..."Jeager1: Get away from me"..."DANG IT TSHARK..and your Ki-43"..."Blizz, belly check(PUMA's influence)" watermelon I had better luck in killing her in this way(on same side), than me and VEX(my first Squad CO) together!???? "Par, wanna swap teams to even numbers?" "SURE", I said. Blizz showed up late... "Dang it, PAR"!!!! That chick is kicking our ass!!!" Then I sprung the "She is my Niece", Delta/V3x!!!"YEAH, you mentioned her before!"  Hope she didnt bruise his EGO? I blame Sis   DAMN I LOVE YOU GUYS  

[Puma44]

  Some have respect the pilot on the enemies 6 and just fly a lag in case of overshoot then the shot is theirs to take. Many a time when someone clears someones 12 they get a rash of vox if they deserve it. You can't mandate honor.
  Other times it's just 2 pilots trying to occupy the same airspace in a furball. It has gotten me a few times but Very rare I find kill shooter a problem.
 

Fairly common in the MA to have a 3,4,5,6 v 1 with a horde of players trying to get the kill (points).  Very frustrating to have someone drop in front as I’m preparing to fire and take the kill because of whatever motivates them at the time.  I’d very much like it off so there are consequences to that type of behavior, just like there would be real world. 

[trogdor]

Yeah, I've done that. Even tried staying on same side and flying one well-known offender's wing for an hour, poaching his kills and flying thru his fire on purpose. He was angry and felt it wasn't fair to be treated the way he treats others. He's still poaching. Nothing changed, and i felt like a avacado for giving him an hour of my attention. 

[Wiley]

Fairly common in the MA to have a 3,4,5,6 v 1 with a horde of players trying to get the kill (points).  Very frustrating to have someone drop in front as I’m preparing to fire and take the kill because of whatever motivates them at the time.  I’d very much like it off so there are consequences to that type of behavior, just like there would be real world. 

That would be swell up until he ups a second time and now you've got to keep an eye on that green plane and a few of his buddies.

If you're one of the 6, it's up to you to control your gunnery, and yeah, some people just don't care about flying in front of people.  I'm not sure if we'd see much of a behavioral difference if they just made it so nobody gets damaged.

Wiley.

[Slate]

That would be swell up until he ups a second time and now you've got to keep an eye on that green plane and a few of his buddies.

If you're one of the 6, it's up to you to control your gunnery, and yeah, some people just don't care about flying in front of people.  I'm not sure if we'd see much of a behavioral difference if they just made it so nobody gets damaged.

Wiley.

  In WOT you can cause damage to a friendly tank but the consequence is your own point deduction. Loss of 50 perks worth shooting a friendly? Maybe if you hate him enough. Still better than taking damage to your own plane.

[waystin2]

Honestly, HTC's killshooter system is the single best system I've seen in any game to prevent/punish team killing.

This.  And add a little situational awareness and you rarely shoot a friendly/shoot yourself.

[Puma44]

I'm not sure if we'd see much of a behavioral difference if they just made it so nobody gets damaged.

Wiley.

True.  But, there would be some level of gratification seeing the score hog blow up as a result of the behavior.

And, as Waystin says, a little situational awareness is key. And then, there’s common courtesy.

[waystin2]

I think Lazer mentioned similar sentiments as well. Fire in short bursts, know when you are gonna hit target so you can shoot at right time, and know where other planes are around you while engaging. This takes time and self control but pays off in hits landed on bad guys.

[Wiley]

True.  But, there would be some level of gratification seeing the score hog blow up as a result of the behavior.

And, as Waystin says, a little situational awareness is key. And then, there’s common courtesy.

"Common courtesy" in an online game...  Be happy when you get it, never expect it.

Personally I think killshooter's the best solution.  Incentive to control your fire, and being one of 6 on a bandit has consequences. 

Wiley.

[Flavel]

If I recall rightly, in Air Warrior you could shoot down friendlies, but if you made it a habit you got flagged "Persona non grata;" essentially an 8 hour time out.
 

[Eagler]

Be the one who swoops in while the others play with their food...

Kill shooter is their problem not mine

All of us occasionally damage and even shoot ourselves down with this but it is still better than the alternative  IMO

Eagler