Two things are becoming muddled into one, DmonSlayer's model of a 'perfect' ACM-arena is really a separate discussion. The OP & I and others would simply be made very happy with the return of the furbal lake or something similar in what we see as the twilight of this game.
I don't see it as two different things. I see it as a variation of the same request. DmonSlayer had just suggested that while adding back something like the furball lake, some modification be made to improve it. You are both still asking for essentially the same thing as you included the
"or something similar" which would encompass DmonSlayers version.
I'm not sure the old furball lake map still exists. If you were going to have to rebuild it, you might as well consider if there are any modifications or improvements you want to add in while you have your sleeves rolled up.
Realistically if you want to fight human players your only option presently is the MA where the ACM-aspect largely sucks.
That isn't strictly true. You could spawn a custom arena any time you want and set it up anyway you want. The trick is, like AvA, or WWI, or Steal the Sheep is to get anyone to bother going in there. The AvA has found that having a pre-scheduled event was the best way to drive traffic at least at the specified time. Any other time besides MNM or Tank Thurs I never saw a soul in there.
If you generated a cohort of players that were willing to meet and have a furball session like you want, you could pick Wed nights or Sunday mornings or such and setup an custom arena and all meet there for a pre-scheduled session.
Don't know where the: "it'd have to be populated to be worth doing it"
If you are referring to my statement, that was not my meaning. I was just pointing out that setting up the arena is not the hard part. Getting someone to go in there, is. If you are claiming you don't mind if no one ever goes in there, that is an odd position. You can go fly around in an empty Steal the Sheep arena right now. Hell, just go fly around offline if you don't care about anyone else being there. But I think you do care. The point of a furball lake would require more that one person in there or else you might as well just fly circles offline.
So my point was simply to temper DmonSlayer's tendency to assume that "it's easy! All you have to do is..." It's often more complicated that he thinks. There results might not be what he expects.
That doesn't mean I don't think it should be done. I think the design we were converging on was a good one, but we couldn't even get enough people in there to really wring it out, even after posting on the forum.
I would remove Western Front, Steal the Sheep off the front tab.
I would remove the Mission tab.
I would move the Events arena to the front tab and remove that tab.
I would change the "Melee" tab to be labeled "HTC Arena" and change the "Player" tab to be labeled "Custom Arena".
I would put a furball lake or something like what we were doing on the front tab and label it "Furball Free-For-All".
I think it's worth trying, I just don't think it's a slam dunk that anyone will spend any time in there. But I'm a big fan of trying things rather than sit in Analysis Paralysis or Learned Helplessness. I'm just skeptical of "it's easy! All you have to do is..."
