Questions about plane additions in the future

[Westy]

 Something along the lines of two large pepperoni pizzas for the use of the P-47 for two weeks.  A case of micro-brewed beer for a week of F7F Tiger Cat flying. Want a TA-152? Gonna have to cough up two sauerkraut unt knockwurst dinners, per week!  KantGo Wong Chinese takeout dinners for 6, delivered to HTC, for one weeks use of an ME-262.
 Want a Zeke? A Gift certificate for $20.00 at Benny Hana's per week. Want a P-61?  Better be checking out the Napa Valley wine makers and be prepared to send two cases of good vino for a months supply of that BlackWidow beauty.
 
 

[Karnak]

Hey Westy, whats the price of a Spitfire MkXIV?  

Sisu

[daddog]

Excellent thread and a nice post banana.

I don't really agree with you guys, but I do understand your line of thinking. Problem is your thinking only of a "main" arena.

If pyro puts in an A6M3 and lets say a P-40E or F4F your probably right they will not see much action in a large arena, but as many of you already pointed out this is not just about a "main" arena. Many of us would enjoy a "Historical Arena" or "Special Event". With a couple early war planes we have the option for a early war "special event" as opposed to just another late war "special event".

I would lay money that if we had a special event with some late war planes and then another, same time same place with a couple early war planes, the latter would pull more numbers.  Of course if we just had early war planes in the main the reverse would be true also. So just because we have late war planes don't think it odd to put in some early war ones.  

I say mix and match. Put in some early war planes, we will put them to good use. Granted not much in the main, but in Special Events or a Historical Arena they would be embraced. Besides as soon as a Historical Arena is up and running you will hardly ever see me in the main. :

------------------
daddog C.O.
332nd Flying Mongrels
Where men become friends and friends become brothers.

[-rkat-]

Can you say - "rolling planeset"?

IF early war palnes are to be added - either a Early War Arena or rolling planset will really be the only way to implement them...

I personally enjoy the rolling planeset. It get's you out of the grind of one plane for the entire TOD.

-rkat-

[Sorrow[S=A]]

I _totally_ agree with daddog. With any kind of attempt at an historical arena you NEED certain planes- competetive or not. And the  planes missing from the planeset right now are japanese and russian ones. Nash should have added that Pyro also mentioned they were debating how much mileage a Yak with all the variants would give them.
  Right now the japs have 1 late war and russian 1 mid war plane. it's time to flush out either side of these two air forces.

[Ghosth]

banana, first off you & me arn't that much different  

As to the above discussion a lot depends on how you define "competitive". One thing for sure in open arena the zeke would not be an "easy" ride. Landed kills would be a lot more difficult to come by. Teamwork a good wingman, & SA are all going to have to be better than the opposition.

Does that mean it won't be competitive?
Not in my book it doesn't.
You just have to work harder  


Several other great points posted above.
Litterally too many to mention. I think it's enough to say I'm ready & waiting for it to debut. How well it stands up & where & when it will be used will be determined by how well it fly's and shoots.



------------------
Maj Ghosth
XO 332nd Flying Mongrels

[Wanker]

Well, as usual, we find a lot of common ground.  

I'd love to see as much early and mid war planes as HTC can crank out, if there's a seperate arena(think HA) or an RPS. The thoughts in my original post were based on what we have now. I bet HTC gets a good laugh when they read threads like this, since we are clueless and they are not.  

------------------
banana
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF

[ygsmilo]

It would be nice to see specific historical areas all the time.  Then a rolling plane set could also be employed.  For example one of my great interests is the SW pacific.  Specifically the battles around Port Morsby (sp) thru the Solomons to Rabaul.  The plane set could start with the 1941 set and evenually work toward the 1943 set.  It would be an excellent experience to start flying a P-39, P-40 and eventually get the P-38 vrs the A6M2-5. Plus use the Historical squadron setups for bombing missions, shipping strikes etc.  Now I am rambling, better get back to work, just a few thoughts

------------------
Milo

"A MiG on your 6 is better than no MiG at all"

II/JG2 "Richthofen"

[Pyro]

I don't view the Zero as a non-competitive plane.  Encountered one on one, a good pilot knows how to take care of one.  Also, we're bringing a fairly late war Zero into the set.  While it's still outclassed in most regards, it serves a good purpose.  We want a good mix of planes, and there's many planes which are just going to be staples, it's not whether they'll be done, it's when they'll be done that is the real issue.



------------------
Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations

Perfect plans, aren't.

[Thzone]

You gotta love that last line  

thzone

[Karnak]

Gotta love the Zero.  Saburo Sakai took on 15 Hellcats in his A6M5 and didn't get hit once.  This was a guy who was blind in his right eye.  He didn't get any of them, but they didn't touch him despite the odds.  So the Zero'll take care of you if you take care of her.

Pyro, A6M5c with self-sealing tanks please, please, please.  

Sisu

[JENG]

Hehehehe I'm certain Saburo Sakai took on 15 hellcats and wasn't hit once... is accurate... if he would have been hit ONCE he would have gone BOOOOOOOOM  

I know the armorcrews called the sherman 'Ronson' (after a famous lighter, they were prone to catch fire when hit)

So I suggest we come up with some new names for the 'zero'
1)Riceplane (WB)
2)Flying fireworks
3)Napalm delight
4)ZERO survival  


PS: This is sure as hell gonna make ghosth very angry  

------------------
BEE(JENG)
=CO=II/JG2~Richthofen~
JG2 "Richthofen"
 
'Nemo Me Impune Lacessit'

[This message has been edited by JENG (edited 04-14-2000).]

[Ozark]

The most enjoyable flights I ever had in brand W was flying h2h in Vals.   (I have to smile just thinking about those duels)

Just something about the slow pace and shooting spitwads at each other made it a great A/C for learning basic ACM skills.



------------------
332nd Flying Mongrels

[eye]

A ki 100 would be a better addition. A ki 84 and the raiden would be my second choices. Ilove zero's but they will not be flown. if you want to have a scenario you must have it though. I would think this is why their making it.

[eskimo]

BUFFALO!