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Offline Arlo

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #225 on: June 17, 2022, 11:43:36 AM »
Pray?

Why would I want a prayer from the likes of you?

I don’t want or need anything from a Liberal.

Obama is your hero

I win

Have you resorted to using a back-patting machine or weighted blanket yet? If not then no, I'm not going to buy you either. Go on Amazon. Buy one or the other (or both) from the Chinese.  :old:

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #226 on: June 17, 2022, 12:27:01 PM »
That’s just one of a few of mine that took nosedives.

I had some money in QIWI -- a Russian-based payment-processing company.  That took a nosedive to zero.

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #227 on: June 17, 2022, 12:35:41 PM »
Maybe or they all lose their marbles and balls and immediately turn QE back on and start lowering interest rates to save the day..after patting themselves on the back for a job well done...

In that case I am expecting another 24 months like we have experienced since the March 2020 drop..

Do you actually think they learned anything and the future will be any different?

Eagler

I'm thinking the Fed will crash stocks, bonds, and real estate by 1/3 to 1/2.  Then they will push interest rates back near zero.  That gets the market back toward more normality, clears out a bunch of debt by it being defaulted on, lowers inflation, moves up the unemployment rate, reduces some wealth disparity based on stocks.  Then they can move interest rates down so that the US can make debt payments still.  And hope from there forward the US can grow its way out of debt.

This is all my guess.  It all depends on what a handful of people in private decide to do.

They could still chicken out before that and put us back into large inflation.

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #228 on: June 17, 2022, 12:37:26 PM »

Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #229 on: June 17, 2022, 01:30:44 PM »
Interest rate manipulation is one thing ..the abuse with QE with near zero rates was criminal imo

I don't know they can manipulate one without abusing the other now that they have seen their power.

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #230 on: June 17, 2022, 03:28:03 PM »
Have you resorted to using a back-patting machine or weighted blanket yet? If not then no, I'm not going to buy you either. Go on Amazon. Buy one or the other (or both) from the Chinese.  :old:

You are a fatty

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #231 on: June 17, 2022, 03:51:56 PM »
You are a fatty

You smell of duck meat from a sweaty tramps feet

Flattery will not get you anywhere. Try begging next door (in Chinatown).  :old:

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #232 on: June 18, 2022, 05:49:17 AM »
I eat dogs
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #233 on: June 18, 2022, 07:53:06 AM »
I eat dogs

you british guys eat dick all the time.


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you dont want me to ho, dont point your plane at me.

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #234 on: June 18, 2022, 08:58:17 AM »
you british guys eat dick all the time.


semp

Please take your fantasies to another thread..this one has provided more intelligence than ignorance so far

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #235 on: June 18, 2022, 09:49:36 AM »
I'm hoping the real estate market crashes big and screws those investment firms that have been buying everything. I'll be ready to buy again when the market crashes.

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« Reply #236 on: June 18, 2022, 10:21:59 AM »
I'm hoping the real estate market crashes big and screws those investment firms that have been buying everything. I'll be ready to buy again when the market crashes.


I suspect you will get your wish.

You might have to wait another 12 months for the full effects to have sunk in.  Housing tends to react a little slower than the stock market and many buyers already have loans locked in at a rate before the rates rose.   But it's already rolling over. 

New mortgage application are WAY down.  Many listings are starting to lower asking prices.  Many buyer are starting to feel financially insecure with possible failing economy and job losses on the horizon.  Many are changing their mind and deciding to stay put for a while until we get past this upcoming recession.  A ton of new construction will be flooding in that no longer is needed in the market.  The investor buyers are realizing this well is dry and starting to rotate out. And the bloat was not as localized as the GFC housing bubble, so many more areas will be affected.

In 12 months, it will be a buyers market, not a sellers market.  Good for some, bad for others.  Good for young families who are completely locked out of entering the housing market currently.  Bad for flippers who have not been paying attention.  ;)



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« Reply #237 on: June 18, 2022, 12:31:48 PM »

Oooofff.  The market is taking a weed whacker to the digital tulips. 

The amount of money people are losing there is mind-blowing.   And not even close to the bottom.  Bitcoin, NFT, and SPACs are the pinnacle, the poster children of out of control irrational exuberance.  They are this crash's no-job\no-income adjustable rate mortgage analog.  They are this bubble's version of weapons of financial mass destruction.

You're watching history. 

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« Reply #238 on: June 18, 2022, 02:23:31 PM »
More like living it as you watch your net worth shrink before your eyes and there isn't anything you can do about it

Agree - no where near the bottom

That is why my guess is they will blink, calling it a fix prematurely and after a very short stay at some higher rate, the lowering of rates will begin as no one has the patience of pre free money/lower market gains anymore and the same abuse will occur because of that impatience

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Re: The Great Unwinding
« Reply #239 on: June 18, 2022, 02:48:14 PM »
I eat dogs


 Mine might be a bit tough but you better eat him before he eats you!    He doesn’t really like human says it tastes like pork.



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