Something you won't find in your mainstream media

[Arlo]

You can tell which folks are against crime and which folks are against objects.

Or you can think you do. 

[morfiend]

You don't have one to offer, either?

 I do, everyone should own a musket!  Then they could tax both guns and ammunition to make it unaffordable to do drive by shooting wit either semi or fully automatic weapons,something like 50k per round sound about right.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU5qp-cAtOU



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[FLS]

 I do, everyone should own a musket!  Then they could tax both guns and ammunition to make it unaffordable to do drive by shooting wit either semi or fully automatic weapons,something like 50k per round sound about right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU5qp-cAtOU

  <S>

Much more common than murder is the legal use of guns to prevent crime. You just don't hear about that. And the second amendment is about preventing government tyranny, which requires more than a household self defense weapon.

The crime problem in America currently is a lack of punishment problem with the very predictable results.

[Arlo]

And the second amendment is about preventing government tyranny, which requires more than a household self defense weapon.

The Second Amendment is about a well regulated militia. Those are actually the first for words and the reasoning for the right to keep and bear arms. It predated a national federal military, funded and equipped through federal tax dollars. I'm not into dystopian fear fanfic.

[morfiend]

Much more common than murder is the legal use of guns to prevent crime. You just don't hear about that. And the second amendment is about preventing government tyranny, which requires more than a household self defense weapon.

The crime problem in America currently is a lack of punishment problem with the very predictable results.

 I was joking as I don’t care what the US does about guns just keep them in your country and I’m good.

 It’s possible for me to live in either Canada or the US, I choose to live where I do for many reasons.I can’t go into them as it might cause people to want to visit the wilderness in Ontario.


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[decoy]

 I do, everyone should own a musket!  Then they could tax both guns and ammunition to make it unaffordable to do drive by shooting wit either semi or fully automatic weapons,something like 50k per round sound about right.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU5qp-cAtOU

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I know you later said you were joking, but the problem with taxes on guns and ammuntion is that it rarely affects a gun used in a crime.  Yeah, I know that guy in Texas bought his gun legally, but a) school shootings of that sort are statistically rare {doesn't help the victim's families, I know} and b) the people doing the drive-bys are generally using weapons and ammo that were either stolen or bought on the black market.

[Busher]

The Second Amendment is about a well regulated militia. Those are actually the first for words and the reasoning for the right to keep and bear arms. It predated a national federal military, funded and equipped through federal tax dollars. I'm not into dystopian fear fanfic.

Thank you for a brief breath of sane logic.

[Oldman731]

Thank you for a brief breath of sane logic.

I fear you both are wrong.  Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to attach the opinion in District of Columbia v Heller.  But you can probably google it.

- oldman

[Eagler]

With violent crime having a peak season any gun control is doa IMO

Weird how it goes to the gun and not the crazy as heck shooters mental state...

Me thinks crying for more gun laws is easier and cheaper than addressing the real issue...mental health or the lack of it..makes it sound like they care and are trying to do something about it..

Mental institutions would help this crazy and the crazy homeless but as stated it's much more expensive than another useless law that is usually the first law broken in a  shooting..

Eagler

[zack1234]

They are trying to ban high buildings and bridges

People get injured falling from them.

[Arlo]

With violent crime having a peak season any gun control is doa IMO

Weird how it goes to the gun and not the crazy as heck shooters mental state...

Me thinks crying for more gun laws is easier and cheaper than addressing the real issue...mental health or the lack of it..makes it sound like they care and are trying to do something about it..

Mental institutions would help this crazy and the crazy homeless but as stated it's much more expensive than another useless law that is usually the first law broken in a  shooting..

Eagler

1. Other nations have mental health issues without the frequency of mass shootings suffered in the U.S.

2. The same political entities that advocate no restrictions on gun ownership, whatsoever (wild wild west), crush mental health support furiously (then cry about this being a mental health issue).

[Arlo]

They are trying to ban high buildings and bridges

People get injured falling from them.

Leave your personal experiences out of the discussion, concussion. 

[nrshida]

1. Other nations have mental health issues without the frequency of mass shootings suffered in the U.S.

2. The same political entities that advocate no restrictions on gun ownership, whatsoever (wild wild west), crush mental health support furiously (then cry about this being a mental health issue).

3. Other nations have well-armed militia without the mass shootings.

[Eagler]

Ok so nutty Americans and guns don't mix

Lets fix the nutty part as it involves and would fix more than gun restrictions would ...it would help this mess out..

https://youtu.be/u1n4NRBbU7U

Imagine staring at that every day?

California is a freak show these days

Eagler

[Arlo]

Ok so nutty Americans and guns don't mix

Lets fix the nutty part as it involves and would fix more than gun restrictions would ...it would help this mess out..

https://youtu.be/u1n4NRBbU7U

Imagine staring at that every day?

California is a freak show these days

Eagler

Better yet, lets actually do (again) what has already proven to work in 1994.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/03/02/before-trump-defied-the-nra-ronald-reagan-took-on-the-gun-lobby/