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Re: Roe Overturned
« Reply #225 on: June 26, 2022, 06:10:38 AM »
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« Reply #226 on: June 26, 2022, 08:42:39 AM »
so what you are saying is that since you look like a woman then it's ok to go to a woman's bathroom.  have you ever met women that look like men talk like men but were born a woman?  which bathroom should they use?  which bathroom do you use?  I see the irony, let me put it another way, if you didnt look like a woman, how would you feel?  would you have transition?  how would the rest of your life be like?  should only those that look like women transition?

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I explained that in the post you are responding to. I'll say it again and in a different way.

Basically, yes. Because People do not know I am not a woman and my presence in a women's bathroom does not cause anyone concern. As I said, if I knew that I looked like a guy I would not be going into women's bathrooms. I wouldn't expose women and girls to that. I wouldn't make them deal with that and they shouldn't have to.
I would not expect people to just magically pretend that I'm a woman just because that's what I want to be.

And people who do not pass absolutely know they do not pass.

If I wasn't making it as a woman then I would not continue trying. I feel sorry for people like me that will never be able to pull it off. It's not a fun situation for them at all. I've felt the way I do since I was a little kid. I don't think they are bad people, I just think they need to put others ahead of them and be realistic.

 

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« Reply #227 on: June 26, 2022, 09:15:19 AM »
Yes, two extremists that you admire apparently.

You obviously like your status quo in Canada and are content to stay, what drives you to spend so much time invested in US politics and want to continually tell Americans how they should be living?

In contrast for example, in the last month or so I can only remember two things I read briefly about Canada, first, how much they are contributing to the Ukraine and second, that Trudeau has/had Covid for the second time.

Will have to go thru the Puritan phase first.

As goes the USofA, so goes Canada and the World. I can see the forest you are lost in.

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Re: Roe Overturned
« Reply #228 on: June 26, 2022, 11:11:15 AM »
The American public greeted the first polio vaccine, released in 1954, with wild enthusiasm. Parents so dreaded polio that they were quick to seek the vaccine for their children, and coercive policies never became necessary. I find it sad the some people see a hidden agenda in medical advances.
nice side step now answer the question.

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« Reply #229 on: June 26, 2022, 11:36:35 AM »
Won't be the only one.

Texas District Attorney of Starr County, Gocha Allen Ramirez, drops an unlawful murder charge filed against Lizelle Herrera for her abortion after nationwide backlash.

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« Reply #230 on: June 26, 2022, 12:01:52 PM »
Won't be the only one.

Texas District Attorney of Starr County, Gocha Allen Ramirez, drops an unlawful murder charge filed against Lizelle Herrera for her abortion after nationwide backlash.

Nobody really knows any of the details about her case, but a grand jury, prosecutor  and a judge had to sign off on this for her to be charged. I'm not finding a lot of information on what happened. A self induced abortion cannot be prosecuted. They go after the providers.

Still, I've always felt there was a double standard. On the one hand, if I punched a pregnant woman and her fetus died I could be charged with murder. If the mom aborts that same fetus, it's not considered a life.

The real question everyone should think about is whether you feel  that the fetus is a life or not. Do you not feel a fetus should be a protected life? I do. Even if you're not sure, do you just toss that out the window and allow abortions? Be honest with yourself and think about the life of the fetus. Or be dishonest and say that you think a 6 month old fetus is not alive.

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On Sunday, Starr County District Attorney Gocha Allen Ramirez walked back that claim. 

"In reviewing applicable Texas law, it is clear that Ms. Herrera cannot and should not be prosecuted. ... The issues surrounding this matter are clearly contentious, however based on Texas law and the facts presented, it is not a criminal matter."
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« Reply #231 on: June 26, 2022, 12:47:58 PM »
nice side step now answer the question.

What mandated vaccines p*****d you off? For public school attendance, all 50 states require vaccines that protect children against polio, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, measles and rubella. But I suspect none of these may be the source of your question.
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« Reply #232 on: June 26, 2022, 01:08:46 PM »
I enjoy gardening.  When the seeds germinate, I consider them to be alive.  Isn't that the same with a Fetus?
Still don't think the Government has any right to tell a woman what to do with her body.  It's really none of their business, or ours for that matter.

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« Reply #233 on: June 26, 2022, 01:10:04 PM »
What mandated vaccines p*****d you off? For public school attendance, all 50 states require vaccines that protect children against polio, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, measles and rubella. But I suspect none of these may be the source of your question.

Well, that is different. Requiring a vaccine to go to a public school I'm fine with as long as you are able to home school your kids if you do not agree to the mandates.

What I do not think is right is forcing ALL employers (with a certain number of employees) to require vaccines. A Federal mandate handed down by a king? No. Not fine with that.
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« Reply #234 on: June 26, 2022, 01:13:27 PM »
Interesting that during their appointment deliberations before congress, those same judges were 'all about the sanctity of 'Roe vs Wade' only to LIE about their intent. As a Lincoln Republican, the current GOP has lost the plot.

And ya'll forgot why Roe vs Wade came into play BECAUSE the states weren't protecting women's right to abortion. To say "well, now it's up to the individual states..." is why we had Roe vs Wade. FFS.

You need to actually read the majority opinion by Alito. There is no 'right' to an abortion. For 9/10's of the countries existence it was illegal, so how could it be a right? As Thomas stated, you really need to go back and review LGBTQ whatever, too.

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« Reply #235 on: June 26, 2022, 01:16:11 PM »
Well, that is different. Requiring a vaccine to go to a public school I'm fine with as long as you are able to home school your kids if you do not agree to the mandates.

What I do not think is right is forcing ALL employers (with a certain number of employees) to require vaccines. A Federal mandate handed down by a king? No. Not fine with that.

That is the attitude as to why the USofA has such a crappy response to covid.

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« Reply #236 on: June 26, 2022, 01:29:00 PM »
my health is my choice.

If you want to get the vaccine, I'm not stopping you. If you are in a high risk group, get the vaccine and stay home.

What this country did was overreact. We killed our economy and ruined people's businesses and livelihoods while not making any difference to the severity of covid.

We should not have shut anything down. We would probably have been over Covid a lot sooner.

When the government finally gave up and left everything open is when Omicron hit. The same people who were saying herd immunity was BS were now saying the Omicron would end covid because it spreads so fast.

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Re: Roe Overturned
« Reply #237 on: June 26, 2022, 01:36:00 PM »
my health is my choice.

Not according to SCOTUS. And what about the health of the people you infect with COVID? But wait, perhaps you think your opinion outweighs expertise.

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« Reply #238 on: June 26, 2022, 01:44:55 PM »
Not according to SCOTUS. And what about the health of the people you infect with COVID? But wait, perhaps you think your opinion outweighs expertise.

Perhaps you're not really up on current events. The Supreme Court shot down Biden's vaccine mandates in January.

Pretty much in agreement with what I just said.

If you don't want to get covid, get the vaccine and stay home. That's your choice. You don't get to force me to take it. Supreme Court says so.
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Re: Roe Overturned
« Reply #239 on: June 26, 2022, 01:47:14 PM »
What mandated vaccines p*****d you off? For public school attendance, all 50 states require vaccines that protect children against polio, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, measles and rubella. But I suspect none of these may be the source of your question.

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