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Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2022, 04:02:57 AM »
I see two problems with electric cars:

Infrastructure
Much higher weight of electric cars will make collisions more dangerous.
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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2022, 07:08:39 AM »
Metals needed for new batteries and what to do with the mountains of old ones when they start going bad...

Don't forget about the uncontrollable fires accidents can cause..

And we will still have uncontrollable weather in varying climates as nothing will have changed there..

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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2022, 07:52:42 AM »
With all the "free power" from spending trillions of dollars on subsidized wind and solar, why is electricity more expensive?

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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2022, 08:13:47 AM »
The oil industry subsidies have a long history in the United States. As early as World War I, the government stimulated oil and gas production in order to ensure a domestic supply.

In 1995, Congress established the Deep Water Royalty Relief Act. It allowed oil companies to drill on federal property without paying royalties.15 Ever since, the oil subsidy scene has been on a political yo-yo:

In March 2012, President Obama called for an end to the $4 billion in oil industry subsidies.

In 2018 President Trump's budget increased federal spending for the fossil fuel industry and created tax cuts to effectively eliminate taxes for coal and oil producers.

In January 2021 President Biden made a commitment to oil subsidy reform, but the follow-through is not guaranteed, and is difficult, as the subsidies are mainly embedded in the tax code.

https://www.enverus.com/blog/federal-oil-and-gas-subsidies/

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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2022, 08:18:42 AM »
Reducing a tax is not a subsidy. It's just taking less away.

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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2022, 08:37:15 AM »
Reducing a tax is not a subsidy. It's just taking less away.

Very good! And now (as Paul Harvey would say) ... the rest of the story ...

"The United States provides a number of tax subsidies to the fossil fuel industry as a means of encouraging domestic energy production. These include both direct subsidies to corporations, as well as other tax benefits to the fossil fuel industry. Conservative estimates put U.S. direct subsidies to the fossil fuel industry at roughly $20 billion per year; with 20 percent currently allocated to coal and 80 percent to natural gas and crude oil. European Union subsidies are estimated to total 55 billion euros annually."

https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fact-sheet-fossil-fuel-subsidies-a-closer-look-at-tax-breaks-and-societal-costs (third paradraph down)

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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2022, 08:54:44 AM »
With all the "free power" from spending trillions of dollars on subsidized wind and solar, why is electricity more expensive?

right?

Obama said that we would have higher energy prices as he killed off oil, but that it was worth it.

And why would wind and solar need to be subsidized if it was cheaper and worked better?

Do these people even think about the HUGE mining increases that would be required to get everyone into electric vehicles. I mean, probably more mining operations than we are capable of - especially given the regulations on mining.

I'll tell you what I think the end game is.

These "elites" don't want everyone having cars. They don't care if they are prohibitively expensive. They want people using trains and buses. They want people living in cities.

And nothing that they are forcing on us will do one thing to alter the course of climate change. The climate will get warmer and then it will get cooler. Kind of like it always does.

The climate alarmist retards are useful idiots. Do they think that climate change will only go one way? Warmer? Of course not. That's why they stopped using the phrase "global warming"

The fact that they know the climate will also get cooler someday tells you everything you need to know about that scam.

Hint: we cannot stop the climate from doing whatever it wants, but we are goin go tell you that it's our fault and you need to pay, pay and then pay.
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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2022, 08:55:20 AM »
That's pretty nice. I love the sound.
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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2022, 08:58:18 AM »
right?

Obama said that we would have higher energy prices as he killed off oil, but that it was worth it.

And why would wind and solar need to be subsidized if it was cheaper and worked better?

Do these people even think about the HUGE mining increases that would be required to get everyone into electric vehicles. I mean, probably more mining operations than we are capable of - especially given the regulations on mining.

I'll tell you what I think the end game is.

These "elites" don't want everyone having cars. They don't care if they are prohibitively expensive. They want people using trains and buses. They want people living in cities.

And nothing that they are forcing on us will do one thing to alter the course of climate change. The climate will get warmer and then it will get cooler. Kind of like it always does.

The climate alarmist retards are useful idiots. Do they think that climate change will only go one way? Warmer? Of course not. That's why they stopped using the phrase "global warming"

The fact that they know the climate will also get cooler someday tells you everything you need to know about that scam.

Hint: we cannot stop the climate from doing whatever it wants, but we are goin go tell you that it's our fault and you need to pay, pay and then pay.

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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2022, 09:58:44 AM »
Very good! And now (as Paul Harvey would say) ... the rest of the story ...


If I had said there were no subsidies you'd have a point. But I didn't say that.

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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2022, 10:06:19 AM »
If I had said there were no subsidies you'd have a point. But I didn't say that.

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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2022, 10:36:16 AM »
I’m curious how they will replace the revenue stream lost when fossil fuels and producers are no longer used?


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Re: Why electric vehicles will never replace internal combustion
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2022, 10:37:51 AM »
I'm of the mind that they will never 'be no longer used.' Just not used as much.