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Scotch thread
« on: October 27, 2022, 07:55:37 PM »
Abandoning my VERY unhealthy flavored whiskey crap, moving in somewhat LESS unhealthy Scotch. Tried a few, LOVED Ardbeg, a bit pricey. Liked Glenfiddich, still a bit pricey. Tried Johnny Walker Red, tolerable in taste and cost. Tonight is Glenlivet, like it ok. Opinions?
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2022, 08:07:04 PM »
Scotch is one of those things where the taste is worth the cost. Some of the 15+ years are unbelievably smooth. I'm a Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, Glenmorangie fan. I find Glenlivet is the best 'bang for your buck' since it is so popular and there tend to be many different ages and finishes in your liquor store. I always have a bottle or two of 12 Year around. My go-to treat is Glenfiddich 18 Year. I can get it regularly for $115 or so.

Which Ardbeg did you have? I've never had a bad pour.
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2022, 08:16:58 PM »
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2022, 09:23:05 PM »
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2022, 12:27:45 AM »
I like Balvenie doublewood.


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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2022, 01:56:20 AM »
I have documentedly tasted about 300 different Scotch Single Malts, starting from the cheapest ones up to a couple ones a friend has personally filled right from the barrel at the distillery. What I still haven't tasted are the ultra expensive 30 or so years old ones. I've also been quite happy with some cheap blended Scotch whiskies. There's tasty and less tasty ones in both categories.

The way I've been able to taste that many single malts is rather good for your liver: We're a bunch of six and have been gathering together a few times a year for fifteen years. Everyone brings a bottle which is kept secret until the tasting notes have been written. We have small tulip shaped glass jugs for each whisky so we can compare the looks and the nose when they're all on the table and the amount per whisky is only about 2.5 cl so after the first round we're not too drunk. There's also cucumber, dark chocolate and white bread as well as plain water to neutralize our taste buds between whiskies. I can easily afford one bottle every four months but with the group I can taste 18 whiskies a year!

Here's some basic notes from our six man group:
  • Price doesn't necessarily tell the taste or quality
  • Old age doesn't automatically mean better taste
  • Following that path, some are at their best at a certain age, more or less years can be less tasty
  • Further, some may be good at several ages with less tasty ones in between
  • NAS (No Age Statement) whiskies often are a bit less flavoury (watery) although they may carry the distinctive elements of the older ones
  • Maturing in several barrels often improves the complexity and smoothness
  • Taste is a personal thing
  • The area or even country of origin doesn't tell everything
Ardbeg is a nice yet pricey Islay whisky, Glenfiddich is a common Traveller Retail (=inexpensive) whisky with both smoky and non-smoky variations, the Balvenie is a safe bet for smoothness just to comment the aforementioned ones.

There's also Scotch Single Malts that aren't branded by the distillery. Some are from well established whisky houses and carry the distillery name under the distributor's name and they are as pricey as the distillery bottled ones. But there's also brands that can't be found on the map. Some are for market chains like Lidl or Aldi (both German origin, all over Europe), some can be found at liquor stores. They can even be age specified. The common nominator is that they don't tell who actually has distilled them, only that they are Scotch Single Malts and often also the area like Islay, Speyside or Highlands. The distillery may even vary. But they still are what the label says! Aerstone is one that has both a 'Land fill' and a 'Sea Fill', Finlaggan is another fatherless brand. Grangestone, Ileach, Classic of Islay, you name it...

On the blended side I can recommend a couple relatively inexpensive ones. On the smoky side there's Islay Mist, Monkey Shoulder is a good alternative for Glenfiddich (same company), Bell's is also smooth and pleasing.





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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2022, 09:20:20 AM »
Glenlivet goes down easy. I think Glenlivet and Glenfiddich jockey back and forth for most popular single malt. Johnny Walker's not bad but it's blended, not a single malt.
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2022, 11:00:13 AM »
Glenlivet goes down easy. I think Glenlivet and Glenfiddich jockey back and forth for most popular single malt. Johnny Walker's not bad but it's blended, not a single malt.

You should give Johnnie Walker Blue Label a try...if you want to try some JW single malt 😉

Outside of that, a friend and I got a fifth of 18 yr old single malt, and for me it blowed JW blue away

Trying to find my boxed bottle to get the name...retail was like $302 but it was on sale 🙃...I  didn't have to pay for anything hahaha but soon as it hit my taste buds 😅  I told him that bottle will be gone in less than 30 minutes 😅

I sent a picture of it to Xargos last year and can't find it now

My family does have access to our own private stock scotch over in Scotland...if you ever go to (damn brain fart)  a distillery on the west coast of Scotland...you will see our barrels with  "Spencer Family" stamped on them...
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2022, 11:03:00 AM »
I prefer the double sided... uh um oh..... nevermind.
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2022, 02:04:20 PM »
You should give Johnnie Walker Blue Label a try...if you want to try some JW single malt 😉

Nothing against Johnny Walker but it's my understanding none of their labels are single malt, including the Blue Label.
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2022, 02:46:47 PM »
Nothing against Johnny Walker but it's my understanding none of their labels are single malt, including the Blue Label.

It's blended yes...single malt scotch and grain whiskey (ie..moonshine, holy water, white lightning etcl)

The other I was referring to in my earlier post is

Glenmorangie 18 Year Old Single Malt Whisky
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2022, 12:52:49 AM »
Abandoning my VERY unhealthy flavored whiskey crap, moving in somewhat LESS unhealthy Scotch. Tried a few, LOVED Ardbeg, a bit pricey. Liked Glenfiddich, still a bit pricey. Tried Johnny Walker Red, tolerable in taste and cost. Tonight is Glenlivet, like it ok. Opinions?

Even Ardbeg's Wee Beastie is good stuff, not as good as Ardbeg Drum, but still quite tasty.

Johnny Walker Red is trash, pour that crap down the toilet and flush it. ;)

Ben Nevis is good scotch, if you can find it, so is Aberlour. Knappagogue Castle is fantastic Irish Whiskey and I personally like the 16 year old Twin Wood variety. Macallan isn't bad scotch either and the 12 yr old stuff is pretty decent for the price point.

This stuff?

If you can ever afford it let me know and I'll brt to try it out with you. ;)

If you can find yourself some Stranahan's you won't be disappointed. It's not scotch but it is 100% barley mash like scotch and it's quite good.
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2022, 12:59:55 AM »
You should give Johnnie Walker Blue Label a try...if you want to try some JW single malt 😉

I don't know of any Johnny Walker whiskey that isn't blended. The taste of single malts vary a bit from batch to batch so some distilleries blend their scotch to achieve a uniform flavor profile from batch to batch. I don't believe it is legal to blend something other than scotch into it and still call it scotch. (Yes, there are laws governing such things.)
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2022, 01:01:08 AM »
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Re: Scotch thread
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2022, 01:03:53 AM »
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If you can find a bottle of Arbeg 'Ard Core, get it. Pricey but ohhhhh, so smooth after the first 3 or 4 sips.
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