Author Topic: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.  (Read 2580 times)

Offline 1Cane

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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2022, 07:56:57 PM »
I don't see the point of taking command if you know you could get side switched, that just seems like an unintelligent thing to do or you're just trying to be an a hole.
examples of when I took command of a boat.
First had vis on an enemy boat and announced his location and asked for Gunners. after engaging the boat someone decided to move it two sectors away in the middle of a fight. Took command of boat and reengaged enemy CV and sunk it.
Second Had started shelling shore battery. When someone decided to send boat sectors away. Took command killed SB and white flagged town
I believe Whiteman you don't know how to use the boats! Out of curiosity what is Your gunner score?
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2022, 10:36:45 AM »
examples of when I took command of a boat.
First had vis on an enemy boat and announced his location and asked for Gunners. after engaging the boat someone decided to move it two sectors away in the middle of a fight. Took command of boat and reengaged enemy CV and sunk it.
Second Had started shelling shore battery. When someone decided to send boat sectors away. Took command killed SB and white flagged town
I believe Whiteman you don't know how to use the boats! Out of curiosity what is Your gunner score?

This thread never mentioned anyone by name, but yet here you are defending this the most.

That means you know what you are doing. I personally have witnessed you doing what was described in this thread. 
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2022, 06:28:51 PM »
As someone who uses the auto side switch, I am for the removal of Task group privileges or being lowest priority for taking control of a task group.
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2022, 08:21:34 AM »
Yes, but immediately lose command on the switch.  :aok

As it should be and for some strange reason still remains.

If you log off, you lose command…
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2022, 11:16:19 AM »
The most effective way to correct and resolve everyone's is just to flag the Country's CV control to in country members only. i.e... If your auto switched, discoed, or log off CV control automatically releases. Easy coding seems like.

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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2022, 11:56:05 AM »
Many reasons. Primarily:

1) They get shifted to other teams and the boats remain locked in the path the mercenary determined because they belong to another team now and no one can take control.
2) They don't have the team they temporarily belong to at heart. Several times I have asked such a player to release a CV or BB but he wanted to get an accomplishment by killing X # of fuel factories or whatever but wouldn't. So a critical team resource is usurped by a self-centered player.
3) And sometimes--this is anecdotal, I have not personally seen it happen but ppl I respect said it happened and I believe them--one player deliberately locks a CV into a path so he can later destroy it when he changes sides.

It ought to be simple? Deny TG control rights to side switchers?
I'm in favor of the side switch thing but some people abuse it. Make it less abusable?

what does TG mean?
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2022, 12:48:56 PM »
I believe it's Task Group.

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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2022, 02:54:41 PM »
This thread never mentioned anyone by name, but yet here you are defending this the most.

That means you know what you are doing. I personally have witnessed you doing what was described in this thread. 


Sure wish you spoke up about the perceived wrong doing at the TIME,I will never know what you were talking about!
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2022, 03:24:05 PM »

Sure wish you spoke up about the perceived wrong doing at the TIME,I will never know what you were talking about!
Have a strong opinion now equates to you being GUILTY .

I did call you out. You just like hearing people cry about your shady game play.


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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2022, 09:24:46 PM »
I believe it's Task Group.

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I'm so dumb! lol.  I googled "TG aircraft carrier" and still didn't get it.

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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2022, 02:54:29 PM »
I did call you out. You just like hearing people cry about your shady game play.


I get it

I don't know if cane did that or not, I haven't seen it personally. But three players have accused him of it that I know of. One of them I dismiss (he cries wolf a lot), one of them I don't l know (you), but one of them I respect a ton. If he says he saw it, he probably did.

As many posters have commented, the fix seems necessary and should be simple. Not just for the cane thing, but for the accidental continued control of CVs when a country switch happens, and the occasional misuse by mercenaries of a team resource for personal gain.

I hope HT takes care of it.

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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2022, 06:27:09 PM »
I think if we do this with the auto switch, we should do this with the six hour side change also. It effectively destroys the rank system over a rumor. I don't recall ever talking to Darkwood ,possibly in special events but never in the main arena. Osmium, Oldman and Max are the only names I recognize in the field gunner category. There's no nothing wrong with having an opinion but I think you should participate in what we're talking about and you end up talking about apples versus****** per Whiteman :bhead :bhead
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2022, 01:30:00 PM »
I think if we do this with the auto switch, we should do this with the six hour side change also. It effectively destroys the rank system over a rumor. I don't recall ever talking to Darkwood ,possibly in special events but never in the main arena. Osmium, Oldman and Max are the only names I recognize in the field gunner category. There's no nothing wrong with having an opinion but I think you should participate in what we're talking about and you end up talking about apples versus****** per Whiteman :bhead :bhead

This thread was not about you, although you're responding to it as if it was directed at you.

So, you know damn well what you're doing.
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2022, 04:35:26 PM »
I have not had a thread about me since the 2003 thread about flying naked.
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Re: Mercenaries. Control TGs? I say nay.
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2022, 04:39:39 PM »
This thread was not about you, although you're responding to it as if it was directed at you.

So, you know damn well what you're doing.

This. 

I have personality witnessed Caine on one side of a fight sink our boat then switch to our team and monopolize a task group (that had been headed for over an hour into the already active fight) so he could steer it all the way across the map (for five hours) just to get it sunk.   He ruined an incredibly fun battle because he's a ............ .
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