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Offline Eagler

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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #105 on: July 14, 2023, 06:46:36 AM »
H2H at 8pm est most nights have had a couple of us in there dueling it out..

Shame only 1v1 is working there..

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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #106 on: July 16, 2023, 07:50:02 AM »
I suppose that's one option for the evening players who want quicker action, but the issue is more towards morning thru afternoons.

The locusts are creating some not-too-puzzling dynamics.  For example, there are at least 3 knits (2 planes and 1 gv dar) attacking rooks (1st pix).  It's not a stretch to realize why.

As that is occurring, the bish seem to be all in vs knits (2nd pix).  No spread of action, all-in like a swarm of locusts.




H2H at 8pm est most nights have had a couple of us in there dueling it out..

Shame only 1v1 is working there..

Eagler
« Last Edit: July 16, 2023, 07:57:42 AM by Shane »
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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #107 on: July 16, 2023, 08:30:30 AM »
Good grief…

Let!

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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #108 on: July 16, 2023, 08:39:19 AM »
You don't even play in mornings, so how about you...

Step!

Off!

My!

Ankle!


Also you: "I’m done feeding this click bait."  in this same thread even... 
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,407605.msg5397885.html#msg5397885

Good grief…

Let!

It!

Go!
« Last Edit: July 16, 2023, 08:44:23 AM by Shane »
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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #109 on: July 22, 2023, 08:40:04 AM »
Not much fun to be found.  Even some locusts are starting to feel the lack of food.  Third image shows how the swarm goes all in.

« Last Edit: July 22, 2023, 08:42:35 AM by Shane »
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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #110 on: July 22, 2023, 11:13:48 AM »
It's not so much the €13,47 per month that Shane is saving me, it's the endless hours of frustration looking for a decent fight which really makes his reports valuable.  :aok
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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #111 on: July 26, 2023, 07:50:15 AM »
Same old exciting boredom...  guess where all 9 of those locusts are targeting?  Map was reset shortly before this with similar action/odds.



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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #112 on: July 27, 2023, 12:25:01 PM »
I keep wanting to come back, but reading this, what is the point. I'm never going to be a good fighter pilot, and Shane has slapped me around like a red headed step child many many times - but its always fun trying. I left due to the stale gameplay, but trust Shane's updates as I know he has been here for an age. No disrespect intended to anyone else, just dont know  ya.

I'm the worst pilot ingame ya know!!!

It's all unrealistic crap requested by people who want pie in the sky actions performed without an understanding of how things work and who can't grasp reality.


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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #113 on: July 27, 2023, 01:57:19 PM »
It's more a matter of the time you might play.   Generally, in the evenings (US) there's more action to be found compared to the mornings when the numbers are fewer and lopsided.

There are still active scenarios and Squad OPS as well as weekly mini events like Monday Night Madness and Thursday Night Tank Wars.

There's still fun to be had.


I keep wanting to come back, but reading this, what is the point. I'm never going to be a good fighter pilot, and Shane has slapped me around like a red headed step child many many times - but its always fun trying. I left due to the stale gameplay, but trust Shane's updates as I know he has been here for an age. No disrespect intended to anyone else, just dont know  ya.
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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #114 on: July 27, 2023, 02:15:03 PM »
I keep wanting to come back, but reading this, what is the point. I'm never going to be a good fighter pilot, and Shane has slapped me around like a red headed step child many many times - but its always fun trying. I left due to the stale gameplay, but trust Shane's updates as I know he has been here for an age. No disrespect intended to anyone else, just dont know  ya.

Sometime you can find fights being country loyal, sometimes you need to jump around to find them.  <S>

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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #115 on: August 07, 2023, 12:55:20 AM »
Chess pieces need the same option that Chess masters have. You should be able to vote for a concession of stalemate, reset the map early, and allow the map rollers the victory.

If a stalemate doesn't fix it then nothing else would either I bet.

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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #116 on: August 07, 2023, 06:52:47 AM »
Sometime you can find fights being country loyal, sometimes you need to jump around to find them.  <S>

Yep switched back to auto country assign to help locate fights

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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #117 on: August 07, 2023, 08:04:05 AM »
You're kind of speaking to an entirely different situation.  I suggest you pop in around 8-9AM cst and see what it's like.  Morning play is what creates your difficulty in finding the kind of fights you look for since knits and rooks are busy re-taking ("ganging") back the bases the morning bish locust horde takes with overwhelming numbers in times of low numbers where there is simply not enough to counter this which results in the appearance of knits and rooks picking on each during these morning times as they can't/don't want to simply feed and validate the horde. 

I generally ignore fighting vs bish in mornings - they're no fun at all. These are the manbabies who abuse the .rpt as I call them out on it.



Yep switched back to auto country assign to help locate fights

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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #118 on: August 07, 2023, 09:08:25 AM »
Expanding to my previous response to Eagler re differences between morning and evening:

Today's numbers at 8:45am CST are a slight anomaly with both knits and rooks having a few more players than usual (with more tower sitters, too.)

You will always see me point out that morning locusts swarm one side at a time, all-in.   The bish are currently swarming rooks who only have 3 of those 11 in flight (tower sitters, I'm one at times) dealing with guess how many of those 17 bish in flight? These odds are actually par for the course. It's futile to defend and even just trying to get an offense is difficult when bish can and will resupply a base before your bombers even land. They even swarm bases so fast (bases were almost even when I logged in at 7am) that it's difficult to hit their launch bases (vh/ords/troops) to try and slow them down.

These players are not doing anything the game doesn't allow, but morning dynamics are no longer influenced by game designed limitations/counters.

This screenshot will show how the morning dynamics basically encourage, to find any sense of fun, knits and rooks going at each other while the swarm does it's thing.

As the day progresses, numbers will start to balance and fluctuate for the evening as knit/rook players log and and start helping take back the bases the morning bish took. As knit/rooks take their bases back, they keep going because, hey they need 20% of bish bases to win. Same for rooks as they take bish bases.  Sometimes a map gets reset in prime time, usually by knits or rooks. In the past, failure to reset in prime time would often set up the overnight knits to take the relatively fewer bases left on each side. (Ask 99Capera about Tropic Thunder.  :noid )

This used to leave a clean/new-ish map in the mornings, which brings us to the whole point of this thread: morning play sets the tone for the day.

And morning play is having a spillover effect. (see the text buffer on the screenshot.)

This is also why abusing the .rpt fucntion is so BS - when numbers are low it prevents me from being able to coordinate with those few rooks (or knits if I play with them.) 



(EDIT)  Here's a screenshot 30 mins after the one above.  Knits took that Rook base in the screenshot.  Strategic choice (look at base %)  or tactical (grab fun where you can)?



You're kind of speaking to an entirely different situation.  I suggest you pop in around 8-9AM cst and see what it's like.  Morning play is what creates your difficulty in finding the kind of fights you look for since knits and rooks are busy re-taking ("ganging") back the bases the morning bish locust horde takes with overwhelming numbers in times of low numbers where there is simply not enough to counter this which results in the appearance of knits and rooks picking on each during these morning times as they can't/don't want to simply feed and validate the horde. 

I generally ignore fighting vs bish in mornings - they're no fun at all. These are the manbabies who abuse the .rpt as I call them out on it.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2023, 09:15:37 AM by Shane »
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Re: Players killing game with boring play
« Reply #119 on: August 07, 2023, 09:32:31 AM »
morning play sets the tone for the day.

I said the equivalent of this maybe seven years ago but no one really cared because the tidal pool of water was big enough to not affect them. Now you can see the pool is way smaller and evening gameplay is different.  :old:

J0ker's Jokers and hangers-on must be having a marvellous time though, it's their $15 after all!  :banana:
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