False equivalency(s)

[RotBaron]

What do you think really motivates ppl to make them. Assuming they’re intelligent ppl, they must know at least to some degree they’re being dishonest, right? I see this everywhere, to include ch 200 and this BBS.

If you don’t know exactly what I mean, here’s an example:
John: The Better Business Bureau is dishonest, they pick winners and have covered for bad companies.
Paul: Why do you hate big successful companies , they pay lots of taxes!
John: I don’t, that’s not what I said.
Paul: Yes you did, don’t you know what the BBB does for everyone?!

⬆️ that’s much more benign…. I mean things that end relationships, careers etc.  Just an example

We used to be able to call out this bs, ppl are scared now.

[RotBaron]

Maybe should have just put this in the insecurities thread idk.

[Meatwad]

It appears the new way of life is that one cannot anymore call out wrongdoings, lies, evils because of the fear of hurting feelings and everyone gets offended over everything and cries big crocodile tears and a boohoo sob story about how their life is permanently scarred because someone disagreed with them.

[Eagler]

Thin skin is an insecurity and it's huge these days

The ole sticks and stones saying is much too violent for some to even contemplate lol

Eagler

[Maverick]

Far too many folks seem to think that a differing opinion is insulting and worse, intolerable. They fail to understand that uniformity of thought is not a good thing and leads to societal and scientific stagnation. What has been lost is the ability to understand that others can have a different view and still be good friends / people that do not need correcting.

There is no constitutional right to not be offended nor is mere offensive thinking illegal. Especially just because it is different from what you like. Like a certain movie line said. This ain't burger king and you can't have it your way. At least all the time.

[DmonSlyr]

Far too many folks seem to think that a differing opinion is insulting and worse, intolerable. They fail to understand that uniformity of thought is not a good thing and leads to societal and scientific stagnation. What has been lost is the ability to understand that others can have a different view and still be good friends / people that do not need correcting.

There is no constitutional right to not be offended nor is mere offensive thinking illegal. Especially just because it is different from what you like. Like a certain movie line said. This ain't burger king and you can't have it your way. At least all the time.

That's because almost all debate now is about emotional issues and you are either the good guy or bad guy in the debate in the eyes of the listeners. If you don't agree with them you are the bad guy because the debate is about their feelings and how your hurting people If you don't support it.

It's how leaders have got away with robbing people blind. They use people's humanitarian emotion to take advantage of them because they know most people "just want to help".

Secondly, to the OPs premise. It's because the majority of people have never taken an arguement and logic class. Probably most people would fail it too. Who knew so much Math. So people don't really understand that argument is an equation and a practiced art.

[JimmyD3]

There has always been a minimum of 2 ways to say something. You can either be nice about it, or be an a-hole about it. Like the old saying, "honey will catch more flies, than vinegar".

[AKIron]

We have become very divided, at least in the US. To the point that each side has it's own list of grievances against the other. It's easy to assume with a stranger or online person that if they embrace one aspect of the other sides ideology they embrace all. 

[AKIron]

I'd like to see Ukraine spank Russia hard. The same for Israel and Iran. I don't like Russia or Iran. Do I want to pay for that? To a degree, not like we have been though.

[-gg-]

What do you think really motivates ppl to make them. Assuming they’re intelligent ppl, they must know at least to some degree they’re being dishonest, right? I see this everywhere, to include ch 200 and this BBS.

If you don’t know exactly what I mean, here’s an example:
John: The Better Business Bureau is dishonest, they pick winners and have covered for bad companies.
Paul: Why do you hate big successful companies , they pay lots of taxes!
John: I don’t, that’s not what I said.
Paul: Yes you did, don’t you know what the BBB does for everyone?!

⬆️ that’s much more benign…. I mean things that end relationships, careers etc.  Just an example

We used to be able to call out this bs, ppl are scared now.

that's called a "strawman" argument and people do it because they're too stupid to argue a point. They also do it just to get under someone's skin deliberately.

[-gg-]

Far too many folks seem to think that a differing opinion is insulting and worse, intolerable. They fail to understand that uniformity of thought is not a good thing and leads to societal and scientific stagnation. What has been lost is the ability to understand that others can have a different view and still be good friends / people that do not need correcting.

There is no constitutional right to not be offended nor is mere offensive thinking illegal. Especially just because it is different from what you like. Like a certain movie line said. This ain't burger king and you can't have it your way. At least all the time.

sand those are the people who smash the complainer button and who have destroyed this place.

[Bizman]

Like the old saying, "honey will catch more flies, than vinegar".

Those old folks knew nothing! The best trap for the fruit/flowerpot flies is based on vinegar.

[DmonSlyr]

We have become very divided, at least in the US. To the point that each side has it's own list of grievances against the other. It's easy to assume with a stranger or online person that if they embrace one aspect of the other sides ideology they embrace all.

It's by design. Come out and say you love American and want it to prosper and the other side media comes out and says you are a Manchurian candidate for Russia and creates fake dossiers with no punishment and sows division and hatred in people. Then call the guy all the trigger words in the book and label his supporters the same and then act bewildered when his supporters get angry about propaganda that their guy legalized. There literally is no way out of this. You either agree to get robbed and have all your money sent over seas or you are the bad guy. Its a no win situation all around.

I think I read yesterday that 34 trillion in debt amounts to 1 million years in seconds. But who cares about all that right?

[GasTeddy]

Polarization, division, creation of uncertainties, disputes, strifes, quarrels... Directly from handbook of cultural marxists. And social media makes it so easy, as big part of lemmings believe everything they find in it.

[Animl-AW]

Look all over cable TV channels. Conspiracy show after conspiracy show. These exist for a reason (same as infomercials). It's the marketing of such. It tends to normalize conspiracies.

IMO, people who willingly fall for conspiracies may have panophobia, the fear of everything. Which conspiracies tend to play on this personality type.
Cults use conspiracies non-stop, daily, keeping them off balance.

I'm not a psychologist, but I play one on AH BBS.