False equivalency(s)

[RotBaron]

Pretty much agree with most stated thus far. 

Problem is this behavior is destructive toward the intended target, like fired/divorced/“unfriended” etc. Sometimes lives ruined simply for a dissenting POV that gets immensely distorted.   

The last part about conspiracies kinda makes me laugh though. Past several years conspiracies tend to be spoiler alerts  .  Minus the ridiculous reptilian stuff… the gov acknowledged UFOs! 

[Animl-AW]

Pretty much agree with most stated thus far. 

Problem is this behavior is destructive toward the intended target, like fired/divorced/“unfriended” etc. Sometimes lives ruined simply for a dissenting POV that gets immensely distorted.   

The last part about conspiracies kinda makes me laugh though. Past several years conspiracies tend to be spoiler alerts  .  Minus the ridiculous reptilian stuff… the gov acknowledged UFOs! 

What should be obvious.

Two tribes and conspiracies

One views conspiracies as pathetically ridiculous, lacking common sense. The realist who insist on grounded proof. Science may be required to convince. Admitting one is fact is expanding knowledge. Defense is research. Reasonable. “Show me the money!”.

Another views conspiracies as truth, common sense. See themselves as realist, but only take the nonfactual word of a selected group of like-minded as proof. Science is discarded, unless its to save their life, they may discard that as well. Admitting one has been debunked is seen as losing face. Defense is projection. Unreasonable. “Get your own money!”.

Cognitive conversation between the two has low odds. Division takes its toll.

Wisdom from the troll under the stairway.
You can all thank me later.
<sticks tongue in light socket>

[-gg-]

labels are always a problem. People love to label others and dismiss them out of hand if they do not agree or like what that person might be saying. Facts don't even matter.

[RotBaron]

But don’t do your own research, just trust us.  Well unless it’s for an assignment, then the experts can correct your improper THINKING 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/09/19/how-do-your-own-research-hurts-americas-covid-response.cnn

[DmonSlyr]

But don’t do your own research, just trust us.  Well unless it’s for an assignment, then the experts can correct your improper THINKING 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/09/19/how-do-your-own-research-hurts-americas-covid-response.cnn

I'm getting extremely tired of big pharma. They've got commercials on the tennis channel and literally every break its the diabetes commercial and they just bascially brainwash people with it. Last month it was the HIV med which is just so annoying every damn commercial break. What irritates me even more, is that it should be your doctor recommending you drugs, not you asking your doctor to prescribe you drugs. It's completely backwards. The amount of big pharma commercials on TV now is just ridiculous and annoying. But interestingly enough. They explain to you all of the side effects that could occur. They don't do that with the "vaccine". Hell, they don't even have the ingredients list for the pharmacys. It's a completely blank sheet of paper. That should tell you everything you need to know about how nefarious this "covid response" was.

[-gg-]

But don’t do your own research, just trust us.  Well unless it’s for an assignment, then the experts can correct your improper THINKING 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/09/19/how-do-your-own-research-hurts-americas-covid-response.cnn

perfect example of the BS being directed at us.

[Eagler]

I'm getting extremely tired of big pharma. They've got commercials on the tennis channel and literally every break its the diabetes commercial and they just bascially brainwash people with it. Last month it was the HIV med which is just so annoying every damn commercial break. What irritates me even more, is that it should be your doctor recommending you drugs, not you asking your doctor to prescribe you drugs. It's completely backwards. The amount of big pharma commercials on TV now is just ridiculous and annoying. But interestingly enough. They explain to you all of the side effects that could occur. They don't do that with the "vaccine". Hell, they don't even have the ingredients list for the pharmacys. It's a completely blank sheet of paper. That should tell you everything you need to know about how nefarious this "covid response" was.

Drives my GP crazy...patients walking in asking for a script of this or that...

They might be onto something with the diabetes commercials..just playing the odds as many are the size of small trucks these days...not only obese but morbidly though

Eagler

[Meatwad]

I'm getting extremely tired of big pharma. They've got commercials on the tennis channel and literally every break its the diabetes commercial and they just bascially brainwash people with it. Last month it was the HIV med which is just so annoying every damn commercial break. What irritates me even more, is that it should be your doctor recommending you drugs, not you asking your doctor to prescribe you drugs. It's completely backwards. The amount of big pharma commercials on TV now is just ridiculous and annoying. But interestingly enough. They explain to you all of the side effects that could occur. They don't do that with the "vaccine". Hell, they don't even have the ingredients list for the pharmacys. It's a completely blank sheet of paper. That should tell you everything you need to know about how nefarious this "covid response" was.

Yep. Side effects for some new magical drug on tv said could cause a whole list of ailments and possibly death.

But for a certain experimental drug that everyone MUST TAKE, side effects will not even be remotely mentioned.  Just the mere mention of someone asking about or questioning side effects is called a conspiracy theorist and silenced

[oboe]

This page lists common side effects for COVID-19 vaccines:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect.html

This page contains an overview of the vaccines, and has links to ingredients list for the Pfizer, Moderna, Novovax and Johnson & Johnson vaccines:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/overview-COVID-19-vaccines.html#mrna

[guncrasher]

Yep. Side effects for some new magical drug on tv said could cause a whole list of ailments and possibly death.

But for a certain experimental drug that everyone MUST TAKE, side effects will not even be remotely mentioned.  Just the mere mention of someone asking about or questioning side effects is called a conspiracy theorist and silenced

when I took the shot i was given a 2 page paper explaining it and possible side effects.


those who questioned it said I would be dead in 2 years. that's conspiracy.


semp

[Animl-AW]

I'm getting extremely tired of big pharma. They've got commercials on the tennis channel and literally every break its the diabetes commercial and they just bascially brainwash people with it. Last month it was the HIV med which is just so annoying every damn commercial break. What irritates me even more, is that it should be your doctor recommending you drugs, not you asking your doctor to prescribe you drugs. It's completely backwards. The amount of big pharma commercials on TV now is just ridiculous and annoying. But interestingly enough. They explain to you all of the side effects that could occur. They don't do that with the "vaccine". Hell, they don't even have the ingredients list for the pharmacys. It's a completely blank sheet of paper. That should tell you everything you need to know about how nefarious this "covid response" was.

In drugs, ingredients is a patent, there's a lot of reason for this. people died from drinking bleach, think what they would do if they had ingredients, bogus generic drugs that can kill you for sure. Reporting side effects is mandatory by law, they aren't offering you favors.
Covid response was not nefarious. The most deaths happened in districts that voted the party that was anti-vaccine.

I've mixed for and recorded many pharma conferences under NDA. They are bigger on symptoms than cures. Many drugs trying to get a pass from FDA actually caused deaths in testing. Don't consume anymore chemicals than needed. Even taking too many vitamins can destroy your liver digesting them. It's not so much pharma as it is marketing. Marketing would sell you bleach as a cure if they let them.

[Eagler]

"Jeopardy brought to you by moderna"

Is what it was all about...

Eagler

[DmonSlyr]

Covid response was not nefarious. The most deaths happened in districts that voted the party that was anti-vaccine.

Ehh thats correlation without causation. There are so many factors to take into play regarding who and how people died, age, wellness, other diseases, and of course how the hospitals recorded their deaths so they could get that sweet subsidiy.

I got extremely sick for a couple of weeks in Jan 22. A buddy of mine who lives about an hour away also got extremely sick with the same thing. We both exhibited the exact same symptoms. He was a military nurse and took the vaccine. I did not. He went to the hospital, I did not. Ironically, the day I got sick, I took vitamin D for the first time in a year. I was shocked by that. That being said, hundreds of thousands of people are exhibiting myocarditis, blood clots, cancer, sudden death, stroke, ect from the spike proteins. Both my wife's parents got cancer within months of each other a few months ago and they've taken multiple jabs. I just dont trust it. I need to see long term effects. I don't have to worry about any of that because I didn't take it.

[Animl-AW]

Ehh thats correlation without causation. There are so many factors to take into play regarding who and how people died, age, wellness, other diseases, and of course how the hospitals recorded their deaths so they could get that sweet subsidiy.

I got extremely sick for a couple of weeks in Jan 22. A buddy of mine who lives about an hour away also got extremely sick with the same thing. We both exhibited the exact same symptoms. He was a military nurse and took the vaccine. I did not. He went to the hospital, I did not. Ironically, the day I got sick, I took vitamin D for the first time in a year. I was shocked by that. That being said, hundreds of thousands of people are exhibiting myocarditis, blood clots, cancer, sudden death, stroke, ect from the spike proteins. Both my wife's parents got cancer within months of each other a few months ago and they've taken multiple jabs. I just dont trust it. I need to see long term effects. I don't have to worry about any of that because I didn't take it.

I took it 3 times, I got nothing, nor covid again. I will take the word of science over a crazy who said drink bleach or a blue light up your bum.. I’m out, once we go from talking about conspiracies to drowning in them, thats enough for me. We all just described yhe symptoms of conspiracy mongers. You have zero proof but circumstantial evidence.


Thats enough fir me.

[DmonSlyr]

I took it 3 times, I got nothing, nor covid again. I will take the word of science over a crazy who said drink bleach or a blue light up your bum.. I’m out, once we go from talking about conspiracies to drowning in them, thats enough for me. We all just described yhe symptoms of conspiracy mongers. You have zero proof but circumstantial evidence.


Thats enough fir me.

I haven't got covid since either. And you are misrepresenting what he said, as per usual with you guys on the other side.  You are trusting a "science" that doesn't have any long term results, where people are still getting covid who took it, and companies making billions and billions off of it, and many people seeing unintended side effects they weren't warned about. Hey it's your choice, but I feel bad for those who were forced to take it to keep their livelihoods and got a long term side effect.