IL2 sale any good? Dunno what the "normal" prices are

[xanax]

Scenarios these days tend to have lots more combat for everyone from early on to the end.  Battle areas are much smaller.  Most scenarios, 1st combat is about 15 minutes in.  For high-alt strategic bombing, probably within about 30.  Each frame has 3-6 missions, and 3 or more lives.

Our next scenario is in March, running during the Masters of the Air TV series, and themed on Masters of the Air (8th AF strategic bombing).

I hope that you can join us. 

I'm so IN on this. Hazmatt is helping me spec a rig and everything...can't wait. One of the best things about a scenario is the banter on the radio while heading to target or whatever. I wish I'd saved films with Damned <CAP> and Damned <SPEC> spouting off while flying in a tattered formation of Corsairs in a long forgotten PAC scenario back in the day. My girlfriend getting annoyed in the background, getting annoyed at my laughter disrupting Friends or Seinfeld at the time. "Dork nerd laughing at dork nerd stuff, knock it off!"
Good times....

[Brooke]

I'm so IN on this. Hazmatt is helping me spec a rig and everything...can't wait. One of the best things about a scenario is the banter on the radio while heading to target or whatever. I wish I'd saved films with Damned <CAP> and Damned <SPEC> spouting off while flying in a tattered formation of Corsairs in a long forgotten PAC scenario back in the day. My girlfriend getting annoyed in the background, getting annoyed at my laughter disrupting Friends or Seinfeld at the time. "Dork nerd laughing at dork nerd stuff, knock it off!"
Good times....

Heh!  I remember someone, can't remember which player, talking about some AH lingo sneaking in.  He happened to use the word "mark" for some reason.  His girlfriend smirked at him and pushed him in the shoulder, saying "maaaaaaaaark?"

Now my wife and I say that to each other from time to time.  "Maaaaaaark."  Or "Roger that!"  She asks me for each scenario, "Are you one of our boys?"

[hazmatt]

You lost 2k steam players

What 2k steam players?

[hazmatt]

You and your buds def won't draw new players, but then,... lets think about that and this post.

I'm confused. What does you're comment mean? I asked advice on and bought a game that I like and play offline. Who won't draw new players where to what?

I think it's pretty clear what my problem is with AH. If they fired the current mods I'd come back tomorrow. That's not going to happen.
I have never harassed or badgered or hunted anybody. I've gotten muted for stuff like: "Non-game discussion" on 200 while others carry on their "non-game discussion" without being muted.

[GasTeddy]

I thought IL-2 has more young players, but actually most of them are middle aged and older. And discussion in game surprisingly civilized. Kids seem to be hanging in more arcade ones like WT and Enlisted.

[LCADolby]

I thought IL-2 has more young players, but actually most of them are middle aged and older. And discussion in game surprisingly civilized. Kids seem to be hanging in more arcade ones like WT and Enlisted.

It's certainly a different environment. Wings of Liberty is a favorite Server of mine, people seem to just get on with the flying and fighting.
I am yet to see any of the typical 200 politics while tooling around in my favorite crap box in the sky, the Hs129.

[Icer]

It's certainly a different environment. Wings of Liberty is a favorite Server of mine, people seem to just get on with the flying and fighting.
I am yet to see any of the typical 200 politics while tooling around in my favorite crap box in the sky, the Hs129.

You will be hard pressed to ever find childish BS on IL-2 servers, WWI or WWII. 

[Nefarious]

I like the IL2 BoX series. Great investment when on seasonal sales.

Just wish I had the time to play it.

[hazmatt]

It's certainly a different environment. Wings of Liberty is a favorite Server of mine, people seem to just get on with the flying and fighting.
I am yet to see any of the typical 200 politics while tooling around in my favorite crap box in the sky, the Hs129.

Have you ever landed that thing? I've had escort missions for the Hs129 and have never been successful with getting them all back to base in one piece. It doesn't help that the damaged once break off and head back to base alone...

[LCADolby]

Have you ever landed that thing? I've had escort missions for the Hs129 and have never been successful with getting them all back to base in one piece. It doesn't help that the damaged once break off and head back to base alone...

I lost an engine and got it clipped from 4 years ago, with my long suffering wingman (Mac) alongside in a Stuka.
That's about the only one I think I've not been forced into hitting the silk.. or countryside.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/441487521

[hazmatt]

Wow. you should have received a medal for that one!

Glad that 109 with the wheels down flew back with you

[hazmatt]

Got my first kills today on a live server! Two in one flight. Our base was under attack by a swarm of Allies. My poor countrymen were getting vulched. I grabbed a d9 with 20% fuel and managed to shoot down a tempest and a spit, (not sure of the model) before I bravely ran back to my base! I busted the plane up on landing coming in to fast cause I was keeping an eye on those vultures.

It wasn't an accomplishment like landing an Hs129 but it was fun!

I think the server was one of the ones run by the IL2 devs. It had icons and people in tanks and all that. I saw something about gvs capturing a base or something. Haven't figured out how that works yet.

I gotta stick with the German planes with the auto engine controls or I burn up the engines. I barely got the LA5 off the runway before I burned it up and the Stuka lost power and crashed into a tree and kilt me. Somebody said the LA5FN has engine controls but not the one that I have.

Have a lot to learn about this game for sure. I thought I only had to do mixture, throttle and rpm. Didn't realize I also had to do oil and water coolers and prop pitch on some planes. It's made me realize that the performance isn't always the only determining factor of a plane winning a fight. Some of those planes have a lot going on.

Reminds me of Robin Olds getting a kill with a deadstick 38 because he forgot to turn the valve from the drop tanks to the mains!

[edge12674]

Makes you really appreciate the skills of a fighter pilot when you start to deal with ALL the aspects of combat, aircraft operation, and weather that they did.  There are steep learning curves, but the sense of satisfaction is equally great....hang in there!

[Animl-AW]

What 2k steam players?

Every game on steam has charts. Last I looked in a very quick valley, they had something like 3300, and almost instant slam of down to like 1200-1300. I'm not reciting exact numbers, because I'm not taking time to look it up again. That's 2k. I got exhausted reading their bugs on a beta update. Maybe a cute game, but it's crawling with easy found bugs, swiss cheese programming. IMO.

People think I'm just saying because Ah is my only game,.. just stating what I saw. Point being, our numbers are creaping up in the MA, while the other 3 sims are dropping. And if I found the best center point to explain why all 3,.. it's their pricing methods are the most common complaints I saw. They are not happy with the chosen direction.

And yes, this post is bad business. and everyone like it, whether the community accepts it or not. A new player comes in to the bbs to check it out, and with this on top,.. "well hell, if these guys are playing this other game I might as well take the short path and go try that too. It's the most common sense in the world of biz, no mater the biz. The community acceptance of this is why I say, they are sinking themselves.

Once it's acceptable, there's nothing that will save this in any great degree. It shows new players "ya we threw i the towel on this,.. go try that..." I find it very hard I would even need to explain this. Walk into McDs with a Burger King bag and watch how fast they ask you to leave. it's not me,.. in biz in general.

Personally, I may make a vid or two,.. but I won't waste my time battling stuff like this with doing anything else.,... it's biz suicide. All I can say now is,.. there's the cliff,... jump. I had high hopes I might be able to make some difference with my experience with Kesmai/AW and some with AH,... that's gone. Best I can do is play when I can and wish you all well. Quite frankly, if I owned the game and some who worked for me allowed this, I'd fire them instantly.<shrug> to each their own, what ever blows your skirt up,... my efforts are pretty much over. Please continue,... the path is shorter.

[hazmatt]

Wow, that was very well said and civil.

Guess I'll just PM people then instead of posting here as I don't want anybody to think that I'm selling some other game. I was just sharing my experiences as I know there many here that play IL2.

I for one am done paying close to $200 a year until something changes with the mods. Something fishy is going on if I and others are getting muted but HT can't find any record of it.

I'll stop posting anything about IL2 or any other sim in the public forums and just use PMs. I'm sure that won't make you happy but it's the best I can do