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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1365 on: May 01, 2024, 03:49:56 PM »
Eagle Dynamics goes back to '91 and their sales have never been better. Silly to think they are shutting down any time soon. This is good news for all of us who like flight combat sims.

No sim dying is good. Accirding to charts I saw this is not ED’s best time. ED/DCS didn’t seem to be as mainstream in the 90s. No ine talked about it, except in maybe sim mags. 90s mainstream was AW, Fighter Ace, James Planes, WB.

One main reason then as now, nit the same mindset. Players saw it matched with MS Flight Sim league.

I’m not just saying it to be a smartass, its truly apples snd oranges. Prolly why HT doesn ‘t mind this. Its not getting any flash draw.

Even if they manage to push this in the ditch as planned by Trippy Appleseed, doesn’t mean he gets the migration. IL and WT is closer to AH style.



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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1366 on: May 01, 2024, 03:54:55 PM »
A guns only fight in an F-16 vs a Mig-29 is very much a "knife fight".

An F-86 vs a Mig-15 even closer.

What I mean by knife fight its much close TnB

I flew hets in AW, no matter how ya paint it, its a different style.

I liked the jets, the masses not so much. I think you jet fan is s younger crowd, guessing.

Seems most DCS peeps go after heles. Probably easier to get off the ground fast.

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1367 on: May 01, 2024, 04:00:47 PM »
Air Warrior was a great game for its time. It was never a realistic flight simulator.
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« Reply #1368 on: May 01, 2024, 04:56:17 PM »
Music video time.

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1369 on: May 01, 2024, 05:29:13 PM »
I took it for a spin this morning. This quote in that thread is pretty accurate.

"Compared to a Huey it flies like a drunken bear riding a unicycle on top of a basketball in a skating rink."

Magnum PI music not included.

I was told it flies like the Gazelle and must be curved like the Gazelle
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« Reply #1370 on: May 01, 2024, 06:35:00 PM »

Why do you think I try to tamp down negative talk and stuff like this thread? If ya care about AH ya wouldn’t be doing this, because its causing harm. Dickwood and Trippy din’t have ine single care about AH, they want it dead, exactly why they are doing this. So it us karma watching them realize their iwn major problems after all this infomercial crap.

Our plan to kill the game is working muhahahahahaha as Rud3boi called it quits. One of the pillars of the damn game said SEE YA :bolt:


In truth we don't have to do anything to kill this game. The Dolts, Dweebs, and the game itself is doing all the work.

Your over there riggin up a bildge pump on a sinking ship. The captains got his settlement lifeboat already in the water.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1371 on: May 01, 2024, 06:37:20 PM »
A yappy back seater like Jester wasn’t popular or fun to fly with, more of an unnecessary distraction than anything else---Puma44

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1372 on: May 01, 2024, 07:33:51 PM »
Our plan to kill the game is working muhahahahahaha as Rud3boi called it quits. One of the pillars of the damn game said SEE YA :bolt:


In truth we don't have to do anything to kill this game. The Dolts, Dweebs, and the game itself is doing all the work.

Your over there riggin up a bildge pump on a sinking ship. The captains got his settlement lifeboat already in the water.

You’re such a small lonely boy. Now we all see why everyone has you on ignore.
Your game is on fire and i love it. :) karma, ya gotta dig it. You spend so much time on a pc ranting because the real world flips you the bird.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1373 on: May 01, 2024, 07:38:19 PM »
Air Warrior was a great game for its time. It was never a realistic flight simulator.

I don’t think anyone would say it was. Especially those in the beginning. But AW and AH type of play smokes dcs. Dcs is all glitter.

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1374 on: May 01, 2024, 07:48:07 PM »
https://youtu.be/SmsW5iEW5i0


So I watched that.  Fun fight!  But it did raise the question of how accurate the DCS P-51 flight model is, and I wondered how this fight was different from the fights in AH3....

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« Reply #1375 on: May 01, 2024, 08:35:25 PM »
I don’t think anyone would say it was. Especially those in the beginning. But AW and AH type of play smokes dcs. Dcs is all glitter.

Your proclamations might have more substance if you had actually spent any time with DCS. After claiming the terrain in AH is superior it became obvious you have not.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1376 on: May 01, 2024, 08:42:11 PM »

So I watched that.  Fun fight!  But it did raise the question of how accurate the DCS P-51 flight model is, and I wondered how this fight was different from the fights in AH3....

- oldman

Nick Grey is uncompromising and owns a P-51. Maybe we can get Tom Cruise's input? Anyone got his number?

My Dad rode in a jump seat in one but he's gone.

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1377 on: May 01, 2024, 08:56:45 PM »
If don't see much different in the flight model in how the P47D-30 compares to the P47N here. Graphics are better in DCS but learning curve is higher and the AI gets too gamey for me. Populations of real players is possible but pings make it unplayable at times, especially if the don't speak English. So I have to revert back to fighting AI targets, which I personally loathe. Maps are 30 or 40 bucks a piece and the planes are 80 bucks. .....and ya gotta study.

On the other hand the mission editor in DSC is brilliant.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1378 on: May 01, 2024, 10:19:36 PM »
Your proclamations might have more substance if you had actually spent any time with DCS. After claiming the terrain in AH is superior it became obvious you have not.

WHOA!, I never said AH terrain was superior, I said DCS terrain looked like 90s graphics,... which turned out to be Dickwoods videos were lame quality.

I tried DCS years ago, when I caught on to the pay method rip and the computer I'd need at the time,... it didn't retain my interest. I don't want to spend time in it, I want to fly and fight.

Maybe it's a good hobby for those no longer seeking adrenaline flow. Not my type of fun. I'll do me.

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1379 on: May 01, 2024, 10:23:24 PM »
If don't see much different in the flight model in how the P47D-30 compares to the P47N here. Graphics are better in DCS but learning curve is higher and the AI gets too gamey for me. Populations of real players is possible but pings make it unplayable at times, especially if the don't speak English. So I have to revert back to fighting AI targets, which I personally loathe. Maps are 30 or 40 bucks a piece and the planes are 80 bucks. .....and ya gotta study.

On the other hand the mission editor in DSC is brilliant.

AI is an absolute buzz-kill for me. Probably ranks on the top of reasons I have zero interest, next to money pit.