Invasion

[Busher]

So you're admitting that the border is not being enforced under Biden?

I have no idea what you are trying to get me to say. You want the President to universally put a national policy into effect when no legislation exists permitting him to do so? That sounds a lot like a dictatorship and I will never support that - even on day 1.

[Brooke]

Extremely right wing is the only way that matters to them and everyone that lives differently is an enemy and needs to be eliminated.
Is basically what I gather from their cult.

Both sides think that of each other.

[hazmatt]

I have no idea what you are trying to get me to say. You want the President to universally put a national policy into effect when no legislation exists permitting him to do so? That sounds a lot like a dictatorship and I will never support that - even on day 1.

Article 4 Section 4
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence."

Article II, Section 3,
... he (the president) shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,

[Brooke]

There was an immigration bill on the house floor roughly 10 days ago - it failed. . . .

The US (as do most countries) already has the power, ability, right, and laws to control its own borders.  It isn't enforcing those laws or using that power, ability, or right.  Also, it has put in place incentives that encourage people to illegally cross the border.

Which results in this:



So, the immigration bill you talk about first isn't necessary to enforce the border.  But also it had LOTS of OTHER stuff in it.  That's what happens with bills.  It might have something good in it -- plus 10 lbs of poison.  You vote against it.  Partisans and the naive then point tremulous fingers at you:  "You voted against the good thing!!!!!!"

[Busher]

Article 4 Section 4
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence."

Article II, Section 3,
... he (the president) shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,

Invasion? Really? I might agree if you concede to an insurrection.

[Busher]

The US (as do most countries) already has the power, ability, right, and laws to control its own borders.  It isn't enforcing those laws or using that power, ability, or right.  Also, it has put in place incentives that encourage people to illegally cross the border.

Which results in this:

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So, the immigration bill you talk about first isn't necessary to enforce the border.  But also it had LOTS of OTHER stuff in it.  That's what happens with bills.  It might have something good in it -- plus 10 lbs of poison.  You vote against it.  Partisans and the naive then point tremulous fingers at you:  "You voted against the good thing!!!!!!"

I will never suggest that the southern border is not a MAJOR problem and it needs an effective solution. I am just tired of it being a political football for candidates to yell about. The solution is an easy fix for Congress (if they get off the pot and ack like adults). The debates between the boss candidates needs to be about the future and not about one solvable issue.

[RUSH1]

I have no idea what you are trying to get me to say. You want the President to universally put a national policy into effect when no legislation exists permitting him to do so? That sounds a lot like a dictatorship and I will never support that - even on day 1.

LOL.  So upholding existing law equates to a dictatorship.   

[RUSH1]

Invasion? Really? I might agree if you concede to an insurrection.

All 100 of them.  Dude you're reaching and deflecting at this point.  Just tap out.   

[Spikes]

I will never suggest that the southern border is not a MAJOR problem and it needs an effective solution. I am just tired of it being a political football for candidates to yell about. The solution is an easy fix for Congress (if they get off the pot and ack like adults). The debates between the boss candidates needs to be about the future and not about one solvable issue.

Unfortunately, Congress and politicians are no longer about solving issues. At the end of the day it's something each person/party can campaign on. So kick the can until the next election cycle, run on it, then continue to do nothing about it.

[RUSH1]

I will never suggest that the southern border is not a MAJOR problem and it needs an effective solution. I am just tired of it being a political football for candidates to yell about. The solution is an easy fix for Congress (if they get off the pot and ack like adults). The debates between the boss candidates needs to be about the future and not about one solvable issue.

Or stop blaming Congress, grow a pair, and admit that your side facilitated this mess. 

[RUSH1]

Unfortunately, Congress and politicians are no longer about solving issues. At the end of the day it's something each person/party can campaign on. So kick the can until the next election cycle, run on it, then continue to do nothing about it.

So the Republicans haven't made this a front and center issue for the last 8 years?  I'm not sure how you're drawing a comparison between the two parties on this issue.   

[Spikes]

So the Republicans haven't made this a front and center issue for the last 8 years?  I'm not sure how you're drawing a comparison between the two parties on this issue.   

Why didn't the Republicans get things done when they had the President, Senate, and House for 2 years?

[RUSH1]

Nm

[Busher]

LOL.  So upholding existing law equates to a dictatorship.

Getting very tired of this debate but for the sake of trying to maintain some level of civility, why don't you quote to me the federal statute that allows any person, organization, committee etc. to close the border. Would that be all borders?? Or just the border with Mexico? How about vacationers flying in from Mexico? No international flights land? No passenger ships? No freighters?

No matter what is claimed, POTUS does not make law (yet- God help us if the people ever decide he can).

But I'm tired and going to bed. Goodnight.

[RUSH1]

Why didn't the Republicans get things done when they had the President, Senate, and House for 2 years?

Like what?  Trump being elected by running on the border?
Starting the wall under constant democrat obstruction?  Keeping the crossings numbers at a fraction of what they've been since the democrats took over the WH?  As I stated, there's no comparison between the two parties on this issue.