WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current

[Animl-AW]

There is no drama on our side. 

We are discussing the interesting topic you were kind enough to bring up.

“Our side”? Tell.
Yes you are and no you’re not. You picked the smallest part if intended subject to incite drama like you’re known for.

In the end what I said about dcs is exactly true. There was zero need for your side. You hijacked the thread, because you’re all about drama. You spend too much time trying to make me look a fool and looking a fool doing so. Knee jerk rush.

You don’t loke the game, don’t play the game, think the players are fools. Why are you here? To put it in s bad light at every tirn with circle talk. We all get it.

[CptTrips]

“Our side”? Tell.

The side that was enjoying the discussion of IL2 and DCS as well as AH in the sim market.  The topic you brought up.   

In the end what I said about dcs is exactly true. There was zero need for your side. You hijacked the thread,

Well what you said, and if it's true, was certainly the topic of conversation.  The assertion you made.  In the first post of this thread.

So, it is hardly hijacking to reply and expand upon the topic the OP himself began.

You posted on a public forum, Animl.  You don't get to pick who replies or what they are allowed to say.  You don't run anything here.

[RichardDarkwood]

You posted on a public forum, Animl.  You don't get to pick who replies or what they are allowed to say.  You don't run anything here.

Oh yes he does!!!

[Meatwad]

Throws a tantrum about how if everyone that doesnt 100% support AH is an evil terrible person then will play the victim when posts dont go his way

[Lazerr]

This toejam is getting ridiculous

[Drano]

I think what's happened here is Animl is basically like Rumplestilskin who went to sleep in 2010, woke up 6 months ago and has effectively tuned out everything else that's happened in the flight sim world since. For those of us that were awake that whole time we've seen what actually happened. He's refused to accept on any level what's happened in the flight sim world or internet gaming. He's not really part of that and this post shows it. I love AH. I really do. But what it once was is long gone. I've fiddled with IL2. Like it. Haven't gone full in on it like I did with AH.

@Mayhem. Love ya buddy but jets ain't my thing so DCS is a no. No problem with the clickable cockpits and engine management. I'm all set up for that hardware wise. Their WW2 isn't fleshed out enough. Maps look sweet tho. Closest I get to that is warbirds in MSFS. Got the Flying Iron P-38, F6F, Spit9 and 109. Messing with that more than anything else these days. Learning the nav aids on the GA birds and sight seeing around the world. No shooting at stuff. I miss that and that definitely sucks but it is what it is.

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[CptTrips]

@Mayhem. Love ya buddy but jets ain't my thing so DCS is a no. No problem with the clickable cockpits and engine management. I'm all set up for that hardware wise. Their WW2 isn't fleshed out enough. Maps look sweet tho.

Agreed.  Jets don't really interest me.  Though I think maybe it is more, fly-by-wire.  I have the F-16 and I appreciate it technically, but it is a fbw aircraft and it feels it.  I might try the F-86.  I'd fly a ME-262.  Those are jets, just not fbw.  Maybe F-4.  That's at he edge with all it's electronics.

Agreed their WWII is currently a confused bag of pieces Oleg left on the floor.  Scattered and unfinished.  No cohesive vision there.  Yet.  That's Oleg's mess though.  I'll judge them by the coming PTO mess.  That one will be all theirs.

Do you like the FEEL of the DCS warbirds?

Does IL2: Korea interest you?  (I'm not sure what that even means given IL2 didn't server in Korea, did they?)

Does Combat Pilot interest you?

[TryHard]

 when everyone was firing guns in buffs, their fps dropped to 30. If thise graphics were mire intense the fps hit would be worse.

That is a big misunderstanding of the difference between CPU bound and GPU bound framerate. Graphics quality is 99% of the time GPU bound (With the exception of render distance which is always CPU bound).
While everyone firing their guns in buffs and fps dropping is not indication of the graphics quality causing the framerate to drop, that is a CPU bound scenario most likely caused by the fact Aces High is not a very heavily multithreaded game

[Mayhem]

@Mayhem.

Sent PM. BTW check out my FaceBook post .... I scanned the AWCon98 sign in sheets.

Do you like the FEEL of the DCS warbirds?

Does IL2: Korea interest you?  (I'm not sure what that even means given IL2 didn't server in Korea, did they?)

Does Combat Pilot interest you?

Is that aimed at me Trips?

I think the DCS warbirds are about as good as it is right now. I had to watch p51 training videos just to learn to start it up (And I found out there are slight differences between the c and d models). However WWII in DCS is still pretty much limited to handful of fighters in ETO.

Right now I'm not interested in IL2 Korea ... I think DCS has a good set up and soon we are going to have both low and high fidelity sabres and Migs (FC3 is getting f86 and mig15 and we already have high fidelity modules of each) but then again I'm pretty much more WWII and Modern.

In DCS I mostly fly warbirds and choppers ... I need to spend more time in my F18 or F16 before I forget how to A2A refuel.

I'm as stoked for Combat Pilot as I was for IL2: Pacific fighters anything PTO which is why I'm sporting wood for the F4U, F6F, WWII, Marianas, the Essex CVs and the PTO assets pack in DCS. 2 weeks maybe

However, I'm going to wait till I see trusted post release user reviews but if It's as good as IL2 I'll get it even if it falls short of DCS ... It's PTO.

Been burned on to many pre-orders ... and then there is Razbam. (Thankfully I got a refund on my f15e and picked up the OH-58d)

[Mayhem]

Oh ya I just noticed the AW III opening video ... it's the opening video to AWII not sure if they used it for III but I'm sure it was used for the Boxed version of AWII.

[Animl-AW]

Oh ya I just noticed the AW III opening video ... it's the opening video to AWII not sure if they used it for III but I'm sure it was used for the Boxed version of AWII.

Evidently I'm not the only one who makes errors. I noticed the comment under the vid after posting.

the timing of AH could not have been better....but it did take Tumor a while to get me to play, was angry they invaded our boards like others are doing here. I came scratching and clawing,...it was a great move. I'm bothered about losing MP if/when this dies. Current sims are nice but kinda watered down on MP dog-fighting. That was the whole hook for me, MP with other humans. As I stated, we all over-looked a lot because it was just that fun. Now we're over-looking a lot because it IS more fun than most sims.

[CptTrips]

Is that aimed at me Trips?

It was aimed at Drano, but thanks for your view. 

I can't understand what they are doing with Korea.  All I can think of is, "That's a bold move, Cotton."

DCS WWII is a hot mess.  But damn, I just love something about the feel and I don't think I could settle for less again.

Choppers are awesome.  It's opened a whole new world of sim enjoyment for me.  Wish I had gotten into them sooner.  So fun to fly.

I'll watch CP with interest, but I've been burned too many times to have expectations.  My base assumption is, it'll never end up seeing the light of day.
That way I won't be disappointed and I will be happy if they prove me wrong.   

DCS...sigh.  I'll give them a pass on the current WWII mess.  What is there now wasn't their mess but it became their mess.  I'll judge them by the PTO stuff.  But we know they have problems executing in a reasonable time-frame.  But I'd have to hope, once they turn their focus to it, warbirds are so much simple than the modern jets with, their computer systems and complex electronics and radar models, Id have to hope that they could really start cranking them out once they get the focus.  Good old fashion, simple cable linkages and some analog gauges.  I'm hoping they can achieve a higher production cadence than on their modern jets.  We'll see.  They and their vendors really need to get to a new WWII aircraft every year. 

[yipi]

I have hundreds of films from playing AW. Opened a few tobight and watched them. The filns,datte around 2000 AW3

[Drano]

Agreed.  Jets don't really interest me.  Though I think maybe it is more, fly-by-wire.  I have the F-16 and I appreciate it technically, but it is a fbw aircraft and it feels it.  I might try the F-86.  I'd fly a ME-262.  Those are jets, just not fbw.  Maybe F-4.  That's at he edge with all it's electronics.

Agreed their WWII is currently a confused bag of pieces Oleg left on the floor.  Scattered and unfinished.  No cohesive vision there.  Yet.  That's Oleg's mess though.  I'll judge them by the coming PTO mess.  That one will be all theirs.

Do you like the FEEL of the DCS warbirds?

Does IL2: Korea interest you?  (I'm not sure what that even means given IL2 didn't server in Korea, did they?)

Does Combat Pilot interest you?

I don't have DCS. Never bothered with it so I couldn't tell ya. Like I said, jets ain't my thing. I have the hardware to run it. Have good controllers. Choppers are interesting but don't have a collective yet. Figured if I ever got serious about helos I'd get one. Messed with them in MSFS. Can take off and fly around fine but landing is... A challenge! Hehe

I haven't flown IL2 online in a while but when I do it's on the combat box server. They fly a lot of events like we have here and have dynamic maps going most of the time. They've put a lot of work into integrating the SRS comms system into the server which does a lot more than just ability to talk and with multiple channels. It has air traffic control, can vector you to a fight, assign callsigns and missions to you or your flight. Pretty cool and immersive AI type stuff.

As for the Korea thing it doesn't have me really interested. Korea. Meh. Flew a Korea scenario back in AW and it was fun but don't think I'd want to do that all day.

Looking forward to Combat Pilot. But that's easily at least a couple of years from being something playable I'd think. And more years away from having a P-38 although New Guinea is on their road map I see.

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[CptTrips]

Choppers are interesting but don't have a collective yet. Figured if I ever got serious about helos I'd get one. Messed with them in MSFS. Can take off and fly around fine but landing is... A challenge! Hehe

Neither do I.  Maybe someday. 

I did realize early on that the throttle I had that worked fine for fixed wing was non-optimal for helo.  One of those linear sliding Thrustmaster throttles.  I even tried a 3rd party teflon mod for it but wasn't enough for me.  There are some mechanical reasons to that but I don't want to bore you. 



I realized what I needed was not a slider but a radial arm throttle.  The lever advantage and longer radial arm gave me much better control and you learn quick that very fine control of the "collective" is vital.

I originally changed to one of these cheepie and it actually worked a ton better than my thustmaster slider.


Then I upgraded to:


I have now found Nirvana for both warbirds and helo.  I could go out and spend more, but this one has fantastic bang for the buck and works awesome for a collective. 

Smooth as snot on teflon and a nice long radial arm for precision and control. 

$0.02

[Edit: side note for lefties...]
I was able to easily flip the handle.  Unbolt the arms and run the wire harness up the other arm and bolt back on. 
Puts two of the buttons on my palm but I can reach those with my thumb.  Getting the angle right an having the side buttons thumb-accessible was worth it.