Deliberate shade spying still going on...

[RotBaron]

sorry Dolby from my experience rot and Eagler are decent sticks never fought animl but in no way would I consider rot and Eagler bottom of the barrel.. in fact I know they aren't cause they are never at the"bottom of the barrel club"meetings! And I'm not just a card carrying member but I'm the president so I'm gong to have to disagree with you

Thank you Scott! You’re too kind. I’ve been using old cheapo Logitech for quite some time while trying to find replacement, my gunnery is terrible so it’s tough to down tough birds like Jugs and the Almighty Yak-3   

To others; Skyler just loves his HO these days, rarely seeing much else out of him. For some reason he feels the need to fly at 20k quite regularly, he’s hardly effective as he once was with Judge watching his back. Funny watching Hotard complain about getting HO’d, but that’s his game goto tactic now.

Dolby wth! He’s clubbing numbers guys and noobs at higher frequency than us baby seals to pad ftr rank. Everyone is noticing these differences from not that long, resorting to running and ack, his id overwrites the superego quite regularly. HO’n with 30mm his MO now.

Must be the heat 

[knorB]

I give a rats ars. You’re just a punk. Period


You just hate the whole story is told, narcissist. Whacko

Hello pot, this is kettle you are black.

[Skyyr]

To others; Skyler just loves his HO these days

When your go-to maneuvering is to attempt (and fail) to pick 3v1 and run 1v1, typically the only shot that offers itself is a front-quarter, which most noobs would confuse with a HO.

That said, it's almost like your maneuver choices (or lack of them) have consequences, huh? Hard to comprehend, I know.

You should really try out for Olympic marathons. 

https://youtu.be/GgEUU6pl2_M


https://youtu.be/QNYJljcXW7E


https://youtu.be/HlypUCRQIqg

[Eagler]

What a weird bird...

Is it time for a med check/adjustment?

Eagler

[CptTrips]

When your go-to maneuvering is to attempt (and fail) to pick 3v1 and run 1v1, typically the only shot that offers itself is a front-quarter, which most noobs would confuse with a HO.

What most call a HO is often really a 1-Circle fight.

If one has angle for a shot and the other can't quite get their nose around to match, even if off by 1 degree, that is not a HO. It is low aspect front quarter shot usually the result of a 1-Circle fight.  Which by definition comes round nose to nose.

[LilMak]

If I had a nickel for every time certain players ran from me, I’d probably have played quite a few months for free.

[Skyyr]

What most call a HO is often really a 1-Circle fight.

If one has angle for a shot and the other can't quite get their nose around to match, even if off by 1 degree, that is not a HO. It is low aspect front quarter shot usually the result of a 1-Circle fight.  Which by definition comes round nose to nose.

Yes; or more specifically, it is them losing a one-circle fight getting shot nose-to-nose, not understanding that their choice of turn will ALWAYS end nose-to-nose.

Don't educate them though, it's funnier seeing them get shot and die, then blame the other pilot for their own choice of turn.

God forbid someone actually understands the difference between a rate fight and a radius fight.

[Banshee7]

If I had a nickel for every time certain players ran from me, I’d probably have played quite a few months for free.

This is why I have resorted to flying late war planes like the TA and coming in with alt.  They can't run very far anymore.  Flying the G2 or P-38 and turn fighting low and slow on the deck was fun and all until most of the players just started running as soon as they lost the advantage.  Considering most everyone in the game already flies fast planes (doras, ponies, LAs....throw the Spit16 in there solely for its ability to accelerate), it got old fast.

[knorB]

Honch’s Guide to HO’ing
 
#1 Use a plane with 50 cals.  Do not fear the heavy cannon planes like 190s and Typhoons. A 20mm, 30mm or 37mm cannon does no damage if it never hits you and if you follow the steps below they wont.

#2 Turn off tracers – so the other pilot won’t know when you start shooting.

#3 Set your convergences to the maximum distance allowed on your 50-cal plane of choice.

#4 To set up the shot, enter a dive until you are below the target then turn up into them so that when you will approach the other HO’er you will be in a slight climb. That way, if you both get damaged, you’ll be on the way up and they’ll be on the way down, ensuring that they smack the ground before you and thereby getting the kill (and the inevitable whine)

#5 Line up the shot so that you have the other plane in your sites at d2.0.

#6 Zoom in and target their left or right wing.

#7 Begin firing at d1.5 – Cease firing at d1.0 and veer off.  Your 50s will continue on their laser-guided course until the other guy flies right into them.

#8 Use the ‘F’ key on the keyboard to fire so that your trigger finger doesn’t unsteady your shot.

#9 Turn fast and flat to avoid their cannon trajectory then turn back to them so that they cannot gain angles if they happen to survive.

#10 Be gracious when they whine.  If they say “Nice HO jerk”, or something similar,  Say: “Thanks! I use Honch’s guide to HO’ing!”  -S-
 

Remember, it always takes 2 to Head-On so Happy HO'ing!

[LilMak]

This is why I have resorted to flying late war planes like the TA and coming in with alt.  They can't run very far anymore.  Flying the G2 or P-38 and turn fighting low and slow on the deck was fun and all until most of the players just started running as soon as they lost the advantage.  Considering most everyone in the game already flies fast planes (doras, ponies, LAs....throw the Spit16 in there solely for its ability to accelerate), it got old fast.

HT could restore some of the variety by eliminating awacs radar that ruins fights makes it easier for LW monsters to pick. That seems like it’s not going to happen though. The day I feel like I need to pick the uber rides to be competitive is the day I burn through a portion of my 60,000 perks and cancel my subscription. That day seems closer than it needs to be because of some the questionable decisions on the part of management.

[JimmyD3]

I like it! 

[Skyyr]

I offered to teach the masses. There was public outrage.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365629.msg4865877.html

[CptTrips]

Exactly.

First 85% of what people call a HO is not a HO.  It is a low aspect front quarter show where I got my gun solution before they could complete pulling lead.  Usually a 1-Circle.  That is THE definition of winning a 1-Circle fight.  Even if you beat them to pull lead by 1/2 degree.

Second, HO is perfectly valid in any number of situations.

Heavier armored better guns than opponent?  Why not.  Jug against a Zero?  If they are dumb enough to accept the HO (AND IT ALWAYS TAKES TWO IN AGREEMENT OR ONE NOT PAYING ATTENTION), then that is on them.  Many a Navy pilot lit up a zero that way.

Out numbered?  If I am getting ganged 3:1 and one accepts a HO, he is gonna get it.  Worse case, that is even odds.  Better than 3:1 against.

Damaged, not much longer to live?  Sure. You bet.

Or, if I just feel like it. 

Because most aren't HO's anyway, and if they are, it takes two to agree or one not paying attention.  Either way if it's to my advantage for any reason, I will.

Most only whine about the HO's they accepted or initiated and then lost.

[Skyyr]

Exactly.

First 85% of what people call a HO is not a HO.  It is a low aspect front quarter show where I got my gun solution before they could complete pulling lead.  Usually a 1-Circle.  That is THE definition of winning a 1-Circle fight.  Even if you beat them to pull lead by 1/2 degree.

Second, HO is perfectly valid in any number of situations.

Heavier armored better guns than opponent?  Why not.  Jug against a Zero?  If they are dumb enough to accept the HO (AND IT ALWAYS TAKES TWO IN AGREEMENT OR ONE NOT PAYING ATTENTION), then that is on them.  Many a Navy pilot lit up a zero that way.

Out numbered?  If I am getting ganged 3:1 and one accepts a HO, he is gonna get it.  Worse case, that is even odds.  Better than 3:1 against.

Damaged, not much longer to live?  Sure. You bet.

Or, if I just feel like it. 

Because most aren't HO's anyway, and if they are, it takes two to agree or one not paying attention.  Either way if it's to my advantage for any reason, I will.

Most only whine about the HO's they accepted or initiated and then lost.

Not only that, but you have the fastest closure rate and smallest profile to be hit when approaching your opponent head-on. A front-quarter shot is quite literally the easiest shot to avoid. Out of all phases of flight, you are the hardest to hit during a head-on merge.

If you can't avoid a front-quarter shot at the merge, you have no one but you and your lack of skill to blame.

[Shuffler]

This is why I have resorted to flying late war planes like the TA and coming in with alt.  They can't run very far anymore.  Flying the G2 or P-38 and turn fighting low and slow on the deck was fun and all until most of the players just started running as soon as they lost the advantage.  Considering most everyone in the game already flies fast planes (doras, ponies, LAs....throw the Spit16 in there solely for its ability to accelerate), it got old fast.

The reason I hardly fly anymore. They all need fast planes.

It was fun back in the day though... wasn't it.