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Offline nopoop

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So....time for some bunker busters ?
« on: October 01, 2024, 07:00:26 PM »
Just asking. They get the "button" it's going to be ugly.
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2024, 07:07:25 PM »
I assume that by "they" you mean Iran?

In that case, we don't need to do anything. Israel can/will take care of any preemptive strike. That's their M.O.
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2024, 07:11:30 PM »
It may be a few days or a week or two but I suspect the retaliation will be much more than the warning last time.
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2024, 07:12:51 PM »
What I mean is to make them available if they have an a/c to deliver.
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2024, 07:14:44 PM »
Their F-15I's can carry all sorts of big bombs. I'm sure the Israeli's have plenty that will do the trick.
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2024, 06:49:12 AM »
Suitcase nuke

Can't see how these don't exist..

Hope we don't have to find out..

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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2024, 08:06:29 AM »
Suitcase nuke

Can't see how these don't exist..

Hope we don't have to find out..

Don't put anything past anyone these days..

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I’m not entirely sure you can fit a thermo-nuclear device in a suitcase. The minimum critical mass of plutonium is 10kg, so maybe a low yield atomic device is possible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2024, 08:08:59 AM »
Apparently Mossad HQ has now been leveled. So this is going to get interesting...
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2024, 06:59:25 PM »
I’m not entirely sure you can fit a thermo-nuclear device in a suitcase. The minimum critical mass of plutonium is 10kg, so maybe a low yield atomic device is possible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54

Splitting hairs as it is really about the radiation versus the actual initial demolition imo

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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2024, 07:19:39 PM »
Splitting hairs as it is really about the radiation versus the actual initial demolition imo

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This

A dirty bomb, exposure to radiation. It doesn’t have to be a nuclear triggered explosion, it just has to be big enough to spread it quick and far. Same thing if Russia hit a nuke energy plant in Ukraine. It would drift into other Europe countries closest.

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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2024, 07:36:37 PM »
Hundreds of nukes have been set off above ground since 1945. There was no nuclear winter. I suspect a nuclear war won't be the cataclysmic event feared. Of course millions will die and perhaps billions but not all 8 billion of us.
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2024, 08:09:16 PM »
Hundreds of nukes have been set off above ground since 1945. There was no nuclear winter. I suspect a nuclear war won't be the cataclysmic event feared. Of course millions will die and perhaps billions but not all 8 billion of us.

I suppose the difference would be in a nuke bomb radiation is incinerated. If you look at the Chernobyl, as in just leaked, the entire area is still nuclear contaminated and uninhabitable. Yet Japan is safe.

A dirty bomb would be more of delayed death as the exposure eats the body.

That plant in Ukraine id a very large dirty bomb if struck. As its blown into the air that active cloud would drift deep into Europe and years if not decades of all life/death issues. All depends on direction of wind and how much gets into the air.

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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2024, 08:59:06 PM »
I suppose the difference would be in a nuke bomb radiation is incinerated. If you look at the Chernobyl, as in just leaked, the entire area is still nuclear contaminated and uninhabitable. Yet Japan is safe.

A dirty bomb would be more of delayed death as the exposure eats the body.

That plant in Ukraine id a very large dirty bomb if struck. As its blown into the air that active cloud would drift deep into Europe and years if not decades of all life/death issues. All depends on direction of wind and how much gets into the air.

That would probably be one the worst long term consequences of a nuclear exchange. Image of half the reactors melted down, that’s like mad
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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2024, 09:47:01 PM »
Hundreds of nukes have been set off above ground since 1945. There was no nuclear winter. I suspect a nuclear war won't be the cataclysmic event feared. Of course millions will die and perhaps billions but not all 8 billion of us.

It would take an impossible amount of Tsar Bombas to end human existence on the planet. It would be a miserable existence for quite some time if only a few were lit however. At least from what I've read......


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Re: So....time for some bunker busters ?
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2024, 10:05:08 PM »
This

A dirty bomb, exposure to radiation. It doesn’t have to be a nuclear triggered explosion, it just has to be big enough to spread it quick and far. Same thing if Russia hit a nuke energy plant in Ukraine. It would drift into other Europe countries closest.

It's in Russia's best interest to NOT allow another steam explosion or any other type of radiation escape event from nuclear facilities in Ukraine. The prevailing winds tend to blow from west to east in the northern hemisphere and the previous explosion at Chernobyl bore that out as the vast majority of the fallout travelled to the northeast for about 350 miles. I remember it was about week later the radiation was detected on the west coast of the US at levels below the need for "concern." There was no partying in Minsk during that week.
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