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Offline AKIron

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #255 on: Today at 08:25:10 AM »
80 years ago there was a race among warring nations to create a bomb so powerful no one knew whether it might actually destroy all life on this planet. Who knows, it may yet.
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #256 on: Today at 09:22:22 AM »
Fear in letting a growing AI, potentially capable of taking control of everything connected to the Internet, should be nurtured.

Ignorant and irrational fear is way more dangerous than what amounts to customer habits, spending, consumption prediction and helping teenages with their essays. The term AI as presently employed as little more than a marketting term, not intelligence as such.


Yes, fear. The survival instinct that comes from understanding we cannot predict what such an AI might be capable of.

As long as data set-trained Neural Networks are being used you can calculate with good accuracy its capabilities & limitations. It's non-deterministic and responses are not explicitly-defined if that's what worries you. But then neither are people. I think you've watched too much low-quality scifi without thinking it through. Does the thought not occur that you might simply flip the power switch to the off position  :rofl


Science meets politics is it ?

No I wouldn't use those terms  :D
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #257 on: Today at 10:27:00 AM »
Ignorant and irrational fear is way more dangerous than what amounts to customer habits, spending, consumption prediction and helping teenages with their essays. The term AI as presently employed as little more than a marketting term, not intelligence as such.


As long as data set-trained Neural Networks are being used you can calculate with good accuracy its capabilities & limitations. It's non-deterministic and responses are not explicitly-defined if that's what worries you. But then neither are people. I think you've watched too much low-quality scifi without thinking it through. Does the thought not occur that you might simply flip the power switch to the off position  :rofl


No I wouldn't use those terms  :D

I've worked with electronic systems (radar) and IT since 1977. I know how to program in a few languages. I have a degree in electronics. I'm not ignorant in this. People who think they can control things they do not fully understand worry me.
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #258 on: Today at 10:33:05 AM »
People who think they understand everything worry me even more. But whatever. We'll likely all die in a nuclear inferno before AI cuts the power.
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #259 on: Today at 11:00:21 AM »
I've worked with electronic systems (radar) and IT since 1977. I know how to program in a few languages. I have a degree in electronics.

Good, you can help me with my valve amp project :salute

People who think they can control things they do not fully understand worry me.

Me too. Especially the typical European BMW-driver  :rofl
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #260 on: Today at 11:50:09 AM »
Just an small comment here. While I am no PHD holding guru and not very well educated, just on ole country boy, the possibility of a "Terminator Movie" scenario might be a little far fetched. But don't ever underestimate the human capacity to develop more and more destructive technologies. Our current technology was not dreamed of 100 years ago.  :old:
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« Reply #261 on: Today at 11:53:47 AM »
Good, you can help me with my valve amp project :salute

Me too. Especially the typical European BMW-driver  :rofl

We call 'em "tubes" on this side of the pond. First systems I worked were loaded with 'em.
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #262 on: Today at 12:23:59 PM »
From another thread.

While I wish more people were proactive at evening things up, and not seeking easy kills on another team being hit in force by the 3rd country... I agree, I find this a lot of fun after 25 years.

I think I landed nearly 30 262 kills in 2 sorties last night just fighting the herds.

That being said, if you are someone who is looking for good fights, and not dealing with guys in speed demons, get out of the mob.  If I'm flying in 30 vs 3 odds I'm normally not going to roll a p38 or a 109 and try to survive multiple dozens of 450mph pick attempts.

I find that base defense is severely lacking. It seems teams are just okay with allowing hoards to take over fields. This is because every one has an attack strategy of AH, but not a defense strategy. This is why you see everyone in BnZ boredom planes than learning how to use defense tactics in non BnZ planes to defend bases and have better battles.

Once people get out of the noob BnZ easy planes, learn some defense style planes and both teams stop ganging one side, than you'll start to see much better action in the MA and see the #s grow.

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #263 on: Today at 01:43:06 PM »
From another thread.

I find that base defense is severely lacking. It seems teams are just okay with allowing hoards to take over fields. This is because every one has an attack strategy of AH, but not a defense strategy. This is why you see everyone in BnZ boredom planes than learning how to use defense tactics in non BnZ planes to defend bases and have better battles.

Once people get out of the noob BnZ easy planes, learn some defense style planes and both teams stop ganging one side, than you'll start to see much better action in the MA and see the #s grow.

If these easy planes are so easy, how is it I'm killed in one almost every sortie?

Best defense is offense.

A mobile phone screen on the dash would be a great game seller. If they could text and fly they wouldn't care about distance, nor ramming or HOs. <nods>

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