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Offline CptTrips

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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #105 on: February 05, 2025, 02:41:15 PM »


Neat stuff.



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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #106 on: February 05, 2025, 03:19:01 PM »
Interesting. The gist is that if Penrose is right then consciousness requires a lot more computing power than believed. Even so I say an AI does not have to be conscious as humans are to be an extreme threat.



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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #107 on: February 05, 2025, 03:19:34 PM »
Did you know, Deepseek sends data from the machine using it to a server in China and a Chinese owned company in London... Data packets range from 20-60 in size  :old:
If you ask Deepseek about it, it lies to the user and tells you it doesn't send any data to China.. I find that interesting.
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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2025, 03:38:42 PM »
Deepseek service (like just about all services) does that.

But the Deepseek code is open source, and any company can take that code, modify it as they wish, and deploy it as a service.

If you want Deepseek LLM hosted iby an American company that says in documents that the doesn't do that, you can get it there.

For example:

"Perplexity lets you try DeepSeek R1 - without the security risk"
https://www.zdnet.com/article/perplexity-lets-you-try-deepseek-r1-without-the-security-risk/

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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #109 on: February 10, 2025, 12:39:16 PM »
Fascinating stuff.

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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #110 on: February 10, 2025, 02:18:08 PM »
Fascinating stuff.


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A good example where AI put some people out of work (those who worked on figuring out protein folding using now-obsolete methods).  But created enormous additional opportunity (in utilizing the new knowledge to do vastly more things than we could do before).

Another example of the whole history of human advancement:  figure out how to do something better (so folks aren't needed to do it the old way), but create huge additional opportunity all over the place (lots of folks doing stuff that was too hard before, so had no one doing it).

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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #111 on: February 11, 2025, 12:25:25 PM »

Maybe AI will find an alternative to mincing monkey kidney for the growing substrate of a vaccine.

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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #112 on: February 11, 2025, 06:10:29 PM »
Maybe AI will find an alternative to mincing monkey kidney for the growing substrate of a vaccine.

Vero cell line isnt harvested from monkeys.  Is lab grown.


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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #113 on: February 11, 2025, 07:00:58 PM »
Just don't hook up any modems to it..



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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #114 on: February 11, 2025, 07:11:44 PM »
Just don't hook up any modems to it..



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And never let them communicate with physical robots.

Imagine a glitchy AI with control of external arms and legs. 

Then teach them to use swords.





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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #115 on: February 12, 2025, 10:53:48 AM »
We're gonna need machines to do our thinking.

"Over half of American adults (54%) read below a sixth-grade level."

https://www.sparxservices.org/blog/us-literacy-statistics-literacy-rate-average-reading-level
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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #116 on: February 13, 2025, 08:35:39 AM »
Vero cell line isnt harvested from monkeys.  Is lab grown.

Minced monkey kidney.   

Of course, Wistar's WISH was found to be HeLa contaminated like many others.
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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #117 on: February 13, 2025, 09:43:11 AM »
We're gonna need machines to do our thinking.

"Over half of American adults (54%) read below a sixth-grade level."

https://www.sparxservices.org/blog/us-literacy-statistics-literacy-rate-average-reading-level


Lately I've just been wishing for the Sweet Meteor of Death.  I think the planet needs a reboot back to just microbial life and start over again from a clean slate.


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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #118 on: February 13, 2025, 10:41:16 AM »

Lately I've just been wishing for the Sweet Meteor of Death.  I think the planet needs a reboot back to just microbial life and start over again from a clean slate.

We'd only end up back in the same messed up state..

Ppl need to change..lose their egos & greed/follow the ten commandments to the letter..but I don't see that path opening up anytime soon..so enjoy the downfall while we can as at some point it won't be for most of us

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Re: DeepSeek
« Reply #119 on: February 13, 2025, 04:34:50 PM »
Of course you need to feed those LLMs. They get hungry.

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