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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #225 on: July 25, 2025, 10:22:34 AM »
Glad to hear that Savage!

Isn't getting old a freaking blast?

What dip wad came up with the term "Golden Years"?

If these are someone's Golden Years, their youth/mid life must have sucked..  :old:

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Getting old ain't for the faint of heart.

It beats the Hell out of the alternative. Yeah, I have nerve damage that affects my shoulder, my vocal chords, and my tongue. I have a fair amount of arthritis. But with my 62nd birthday less than two weeks away, I still do everything I want to do, when I have time and money, anyway. I'm actually getting better, not worse.
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #226 on: July 25, 2025, 01:32:17 PM »
Glad to hear that Savage!

Isn't getting old a freaking blast?

What dip wad came up with the term "Golden Years"?

If these are someone's Golden Years, their youth/mid life must have sucked..  :old:

Eagler

The term "golden years" refers to the period of life after retirement, often associated with leisure, happiness, and fulfillment. It was coined in 1959 by Del Webb to market retirement communities, suggesting that retirement is a time for relaxation and enjoyment. This concept has been popularized by media, such as the TV show "The Golden Girls," which portrays older women living independently and enjoying life. However, the meaning of "golden years" has evolved, and it is now used to describe a broader stage of life after retirement, encompassing various aspects of aging and personal fulfillment.

One I thought of was some of us older folks have leaky bladders…..
I’ll stop that train of thought right there!

On a positive note I’m 20 hours into my third real fast.  Feeling GREAT!!!
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #227 on: July 25, 2025, 01:39:26 PM »


You guys facing chemo, should really research and ask you oncologist about the work of Dr. Valter Longo and the interaction between fasting and chemo treatments.

I am not a doctor, nor slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #228 on: July 25, 2025, 03:39:50 PM »

You guys facing chemo, should really research and ask you oncologist about the work of Dr. Valter Longo and the interaction between fasting and chemo treatments.

I am not a doctor, nor slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night.



It’s my understanding cancer cells need glucose to live so if you’re in ketosis that’s something those cancer cells wouldn’t tolerate.
I aslo am not a Doctor and no Holiday Inn Express’s recently.
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #229 on: July 25, 2025, 03:48:05 PM »
It’s my understanding cancer cells need glucose to live so if you’re in ketosis that’s something those cancer cells wouldn’t tolerate.
I aslo am not a Doctor and no Holiday Inn Express’s recently.

That's part of it.

AS I understand the theory when you go into a full fast (like at least 36hrs) the healthy cell begin to wind down into a protective dormancy mode like a low energy orbit.  I guess the evolutionary advantage was for energy conservation.  However a side effect is that in that state the cells are much less effected by transient toxins in the blood stream.

Cancers cells have lost that ability.  They have NO growth regulation.  That is why they are cancer.  So when the chemo comes by they guzzle their fill and the healthy cells barely sip. 

What you are doing is creating a disproportionate response to the chemo toxins.  After the cycle you begin the refeed and the healthy cell re-active with much less damage than they might have had.  The cancer cells took the full hit.

This can either make the treatment much less debilitating and aid faster recovery, or allow more aggressive treatment dosage than they otherwise would be able to tolerate.

So the real magic I think is to create the differential response to the chemo toxins and how that effect can be leveraged.

That was my take-away.



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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #230 on: July 25, 2025, 03:55:10 PM »
It's absolutely NOT a sure thing that cancer cells need glucose to live. But they do thrive on it. A PET scan literally puts a radioactive element in glucose, injected into your bloodstream after at least 6 hours of fasting, because the cancer will grab the sucrose and metabolize it first.

I keep the processed sugars to a minimum. I don't drink soft drinks often, I drink black coffee and unsweet tea. Most often if I have chocolate, it is dark semi-sweet.

There's a theory that you can investigate in a book the late Tommy Johnson Sr. wrote about his cancer battle. He was given 120 days to live, with a fast growing colon cancer. They stopped all treatment. He lived another 20+ years, and died of "old age/natural causes". It's basically diet and supplements. You can get his book on the Kindle, or the app for it, it is out of publication. I knew him, and I know his son.

I didn't have much trouble with chemo, I was fortunate, the chemo and radiation killed off my original tumor quickly, so I didn't get a massive long term dose, but Cisplatin is nasty. Of course, now I could not have regular radiation in the same area again. Cisplatin is so nasty, I had two nurses administer it, they both wore double gowns and double gloves. They had to repeat my name, date of birth, and dosage, to each other, and to the girls at the desk in the treatment room, quite loud. After it was finished, they flooded me with fluids, then gave me a shot of a drug so powerful that by the time the injection went through the IV, it felt like a tri axle dump truck was on my bladder. And I had to drink at least a full gallon of water that day and the day after. They told my wife not to touch anything if I got sick. It was about three months after treatment ended before they decided it was okay for us to have sex again.
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #231 on: July 26, 2025, 03:51:29 PM »
Yikes. Glad your still here!!
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #232 on: July 27, 2025, 07:44:29 AM »
Holy Moly Virgil!

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #233 on: July 27, 2025, 01:45:51 PM »
Well, a lot of people have had it way worse. Saw my ex-wife's uncle while I was there. He was gone before my first surgery. Saw a lot of people rolled around in wheel chairs and on gurneys.

I've gained every pound back, unfortunately, a little less is muscle, mostly due to nerve damage that prevents me from working some muscles hard enough to gain strength and size back.

I've seen a lot of people go through more and recover, I'm just one of the lucky ones.
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