B-2s Mass in Diego Garcia

[CptTrips]

Something feels afoot.  We don't break out the hangar queens very often. 

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/b-2-bombers-diego-garcia/

[icepac]

If there’s action at Avon park or Pinecastle, then someone’s about to have a really bad day.

[CptTrips]

Trump Sun morning:

During the interview, Trump also threatened “bombing” and “secondary tariffs” on Iran if the country did not make a deal with the U.S. to ensure it did not develop a nuclear weapon.

“If they don’t make a deal,” Trump said about Iran, “there will be bombing. It will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna198729

[Eagler]

"It'll be the greatest bombing ever!"

So sad to think this was the better of the two..

Tariffs are to raise prices so when they are removed and prices come down they'll take credit for lower prices.. 

Eagler

[CptTrips]

"It'll be the greatest bombing ever!"

So sad to think this was the better of the two..

I'll cut him slack on this one.  They've had it coming since '79.

[RUSH1]

"It'll be the greatest bombing ever!"

So sad to think this was the better of the two..

Tariffs are to raise prices so when they are removed and prices come down they'll take credit for lower prices.. 

Eagler

If you haven't figured out by now that he speaks his own language, I don't know what to tell you.  Regardless, speech like this is all countries like Iran understand.   

[Brooke]

Tariffs are incentivization tools to get things such as:  lowering tariffs on your products, not hassling your companies with weaponized regulations or rulings, getting factories built in the US instead of in other nations, etc.

[guncrasher]

Tariffs are incentivization tools to get things such as:  lowering tariffs on your products, not hassling your companies with weaponized regulations or rulings, getting factories built in the US instead of in other nations, etc.

there's a reason why companies left. same reason why they wont comeback  it's been like that for 30+ years


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[RUSH1]

there's a reason why companies left. same reason why they wont comeback  it's been like that for 30+ years   

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NAFTA - 1992/1994?

[Brooke]

there's a reason why companies left. same reason why they wont comeback  it's been like that for 30+ years


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Companies operate (usually) to maximize their profit.  A 25% tariff if you build stuff outside the US and import it, vs. 0% tariff if you build it inside the US, can mean higher profit to build it inside the US.  Even if companies initially moved manufacturing outside the US for cheaper labor or building or whatever, at some tariff %, you will make more money moving the manufacturing back to the US.

This is why these companies recently announced building factories in the US:
-- Taiwan Semiconductor ($65B)
-- Apple ($500B)
-- Hyundai ($20B)
-- Samsung ($44B)
-- Intel ($20B)
-- Honda ($700M)
-- nVidia ($200B)

A few hundred $billion here, a few hundred $billion there -- pretty soon, you're talking about real money.

[Eagler]

there's a reason why companies left. same reason why they wont comeback  it's been like that for 30+ years


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Worse now..union paid US workers won't make anything made here any cheaper than it's now being made in other countries..

It's more about security than costs but the average American isn't up to feeling any more pain until these tariffs have their effects so they will fail as will the reduction of government by laying off these redundant and useless jobs as the other side will just promise the positions back with back pay via EO and boom ..back to square one...

Eagler

[icepac]

I saw an trump interview from the 80s and he mentioned that going offshore will come back to bite us.

[CptTrips]

I saw an trump interview from the 80s and he mentioned that going offshore will come back to bite us.

[-gg-]

We should charge reciprocal tariffs. If a country is charging us, or if they are dumping product, then we should charging appropriate tariffs until it's remedied.

Not sure what Trump is doing exactly, but I do know that Canada has some pretty steep tariffs on American dairy. China doesn't freely allow some American business and they subsidize a lot of stuff and they're been known to dump in the market.

I do not know the detail of most of our tariffs, or if they are justified or not. I suspect that they are supposed to be a bargaining tool.

I'm not against having China make our suff. American, German, UK and other quality  companies design a lot of the stuff and it's made in factories a lot of them have made. It's just that it's located in China and they have a MUCH more sophisticated and VAST industrial base and supply chain. Who cares where the stuff is made?

[CptTrips]

Tariffs are the gateway drug to a command economy.