Nothing New

[Yarbles]

For me the biggest challege is the lead you have to pull it's sooo much more then props. That and how quick the blackout can hit you at certain speeds. Oh, and those dang AIM9bs lol. Only the late model F86s carry them for the most part and thankfully only 2.

I think you have to lag pursuit as much as possible then you get a shot.

If I fly lag long enough eventually I get a decent shot.  Some ACE have forgotten the name of said close, close, closer and then get closer still.

[hazmatt]

  head on a swivel. The real deal.

You mean no AWACS? The horror!

[Yarbles]

You mean no AWACS? The horror!

No nothing and even your compass ain't right !! It turns out there is a true north and a magnetic north and it was different in 1944 to now 

[DmonSlyr]

Problem is though, you fly around for 30 minutes and may not find anything. While the plane is a task, the fight is a snoozer and you look at the map and you don't know where the fight is at all. It doesn't feel like a real battle is going on. I enjoy the AI servers i fly in but it doesn't compare to the same concept as AH.

[Yarbles]

Problem is though, you fly around for 30 minutes and may not find anything. While the plane is a task, the fight is a snoozer and you look at the map and you don't know where the fight is at all. It doesn't feel like a real battle is going on. I enjoy the AI servers i fly in but it doesn't compare to the same concept as AH.

Or just as likely you fly around for 30 minutes don't find anything, get bored, scratch your balls and get a 30mm in your arse from the 109 you never saw.

I find that strangely compelling.

[Animl-AW]

For me the biggest challege is the lead you have to pull it's sooo much more then props. That and how quick the blackout can hit you at certain speeds. Oh, and those dang AIM9bs lol. Only the late model F86s carry them for the most part and thankfully only 2.

Yeeeup!
Like I said, a different mindset, when it gets down and dirty you HAVE to think so much further ahead.... and leading shots,...if you come from a prop to a jet,...you're going to have problems adjusting, a lot has to do with muscle memory in the way and waiting for that close shot. But headon passing,.. as fast as you can focus they are long gone. Using missiles, meh, those are other calculations, the deer hunting part, one shot one kill. Not sure I used them much. They certainly weren't guided, so good luck with that. and blackouts can come in a split second, as apposed to props. One wrong jerk and you can be in the black. Love that sht. But like I said, in AW it was maybe finding 2-4 guys in there. More pplayers should have given it a chance, it just doesn't click with many. Start getting into the nam AC that was maybe flown during Korea,.. suddenly it's way kewl. That name Korea just never hits home.

But in DCS,...the manuals, and wait time, and digging through the glitter, what bug am I dealing with in this AC, like Violator stated actually finding a fight. If I was 30 again and had a lot of time left, ok I'll give it a shot. i did when it first came out... I'm just not into blowing big time on leanings. This has a steep enough curve even return re-learning. I'm good.

[fudgums]

Yall are insane

[Animl-AW]

Yall are insane

Prolly more so than your imagination can dig up lol <shrug>

[Yarbles]

But in DCS,...the manuals, and wait time, and digging through the glitter, what bug am I dealing with in this AC, like Violator stated actually finding a fight. If I was 30 again and had a lot of time left, ok I'll give it a shot. i did when it first came out... I'm just not into blowing big time on leanings. This has a steep enough curve even return re-learning. I'm good.

You might enjoy learning just 1 warbird. I have Spit and P51 and My Log says I have 30 hours in the Spit off line but it feels like I am getting good at it finally. I am dreading the 51 but I want to escort B17'S and the Spit won't hack it. So however 

I want to fly a big mission with half a dozen peeps, rendezvous and take those buffs too and from target. Maybe 90 minutes and 5 minutes action.

Back in the day those 17's were all manned and so were all the fighters but where do you go now for that ? Maybe 4 times a year in AH.

btw I have huge respect for the long term AH pilots who really know how to get the best out of planes like the 190 and P47 IN A 1 v 1 BUT    I am more interested in the historical reality of kill quick in the combat zone and probably would never have those skills anyway. Prolonged dog fights I think would have been a death trap especially over enemy territory.

Once you are up it is AH but with constant trim and engine management plus no icons so you need to use zoom constantly and check your 6 all the time. If you get in a fight it is really hard to keep vis on an oponent epecially looking down on him/her due to cammo. But of course it is the same for the opponent.

I do think though learning offsetts ageing. I am 62 and it seems pretty good for my brain to learn new skills on a daily basis.

[Animl-AW]

You might enjoy learning just 1 warbird. I have Spit and P51 and My Log says I have 30 hours in the Spit off line but it feels like I am getting good at it finally. I am dreading the 51 but I want to escort B17'S and the Spit won't hack it. So however 

I want to fly a big mission with half a dozen peeps, rendezvous and take those buffs too and from target. Maybe 90 minutes and 5 minutes action.

Back in the day those 17's were all manned and so were all the fighters but where do you go now for that ? Maybe 4 times a year in AH.

btw I have huge respect for the long term AH pilots who really know how to get the best out of planes like the 190 and P47 IN A 1 v 1 BUT    I am more interested in the historical reality of kill quick in the combat zone and probably would never have those skills anyway. Prolonged dog fights I think would have been a death trap especially over enemy territory.

Once you are up it is AH but with constant trim and engine management plus no icons so you need to use zoom constantly and check your 6 all the time. If you get in a fight it is really hard to keep vis on an oponent epecially looking down on him/her due to cammo. But of course it is the same for the opponent.

I do think though learning offsetts ageing. I am 62 and it seems pretty good for my brain to learn new skills on a daily basis.

Ya I get it.
Well I spent 45 yrs in live sound for concerts, programming, sim projects, mechanics. When I got a break during Pandemic, my brain said "ya screw all this brain clogging data", and at least for a while I just refused to learn anymore, "enough". I just want my brain to drain a while. Now that I'm retired and more clear in the head I'd like to do some projects for AH, maybe damage model FX stuff, but I don't have the keys to the car. Anxious and plenty of time with no where to go. So making vids fills a void.

[Yarbles]

Ya I get it.
Well I spent 45 yrs in live sound for concerts, programming, sim projects, mechanics. When I got a break during Pandemic, my brain said "ya screw all this brain clogging data", and at least for a while I just refused to learn anymore, "enough". I just want my brain to drain a while. Now that I'm retired and more clear in the head I'd like to do some projects for AH, maybe damage model FX stuff, but I don't have the keys to the car. Anxious and plenty of time with no where to go. So making vids fills a void.

Hand eye co ordination is the other side of your brain ?

I don't know but personally I am not a fan of retirement. People say they keep busy but I think they tend to potter in solitary pursuits especially men do. I am working part time in deliveries now after a career in finance about 15 to 20 hours a week. Its quite chatty and young people even ladies  . The gaming world is mostly men and numbers, logic and reason but some shared purpose which is great. I am in the gig economy. Rubish money but you start when you like and go home when you feel like it and no stress. Ah would be alot better if there was change. Nothing new anymore.

My neighbour is retired. He is watching "Battlestar Galactica" all seven seasons for the third time and making lego models. I try to avoid him 

[Shane]

Or just as likely you fly around for 30 minutes don't find anything, get bored, scratch your balls and get a 30mm in your arse from the 109 you never saw.

I find that strangely compelling.

Nothing stops you from getting the same experience here by leaving your clipboard map closed once you lift a base heading somewhere. 

I guess FSO is out of your time availability?

[Animl-AW]

Hand eye co ordination is the other side of your brain ?

I don't know but personally I am not a fan of retirement. People say they keep busy but I think they tend to potter in solitary pursuits especially men do. I am working part time in deliveries now after a career in finance about 15 to 20 hours a week. Its quite chatty and young people even ladies  . The gaming world is mostly men and numbers, logic and reason but some shared purpose which is great. I am in the gig economy. Rubish money but you start when you like and go home when you feel like it and no stress. Ah would be alot better if there was change. Nothing new anymore.

My neighbour is retired. He is watching "Battlestar Galactica" all seven seasons for the third time and making lego models. I try to avoid him 

Have a friend who retired before me, actually guitar player for the play/band Hair (song Aquarius), fellow sound engineer. when he retired he would just sit and get 420 and do crossword puzzles, watching TV. A few times he asked me to mow his lawn and trim his trees, I have a green thumb. I told him, I don't mind helping ya, but ya gotta get your ars up and do something, you're gonna have a stroke because your habits changed too much. He blew me off. Sure as sht, two weeks later he had a stroke on a Friday, they didn't find him until Sunday. It had set roots, hes now paralyzed on the right side for life now, can barely talk. DO NOT STOP MOVING.

[horble]

I’ve been waiting for someone to rip this game off.. errrr come up with a spiritual successor for years now, doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen so I’ll keep hanging out in this hospice ward where everyone keeps going through the motions. Once you squelch the 2-3 querulous old gv’ers on each side who are convinced everyone is cheating it usually isn’t too bad.

I like that I can play this without needing 9 million buttons or trackir or some other expensive peripheral. Super great graphics are nice but I don’t need them, get me close and my imagination can do the rest.

[Dadtallica]

I’v never tuned to 200. The only person that ever gets squelched by me in all my years is gldnbb. Otherwise Rook country chat is pretty chill place. Many several problems could be solved by not yapping in the internet but humans gotta human.