If it's free..it's for me

[Eagler]

https://il2sturmovik.com/bom-free/



Eagler

[AKIron]

It ain't free but it's cheap. Well, maybe it's free. You must own Battle of Stalingrad which is on sale for $10. Maybe that's included?

[AKIron]

Maybe they removed the prereq. I already owned it so can't tell.

[Spikes]

BoS is still required.

[AKIron]

Battle of Stalingrad (Great Battles) is more than 10 years old now but has held up well. I've bought the various versions of IL-2 going back more than 20 years. One of these days I'll get around to spending time in them. 

[icepac]

I remember a Finnish server for IL2 and I played On a russian server shortly before coming to aces high.

[AKIron]

Youngest son had a girlfriend who moved to the US from Russia when she was 10. Her grandfather was a tail gunner in the IL-2 during WWII.

[Dadtallica]

Playing the single player IL2 career modes and other missions have helped to improve my A2A skills greatly. Every time I start to fall back into old habits here I make sure to spend a day or two each week doing some IL2 missions. Usually helps right my ship not sure why.

I’m picking up the TA152 for $4!

[Devil 505]

I've been playing it for a while. Wish AH looked this good.

[DmonSlyr]

I've been playing it for a while. Wish AH looked this good.

While it looks good. I still don't think many can handle the complexity of AH plane choice and being in an arena thats "not fair" regarding plane choice. It make AH main arena very unique. Il2 still doesn't provide the same war strategy concept that AH does.

[Spikes]

How is AH "not fair"? You can fly whatever plane you want, having an unequal matchup is a product of your own choices.

Also, likewise, I doubt the vast majority here could handle IL2s flight model complexity. You can't just firewall the throttle the entire sortie without blowing your engine up.

[AKIron]

Variety is the spice....

[Animl-AW]

You should do that

[Animl-AW]

Ya I look at that last week

Saw coding notes in Russian
Too much scripting
Too much AI
Questionable FM, like missing torque

Pattern has been, the better the graphics the less fun. Everyone is into the graphics and engine management over game play.

No one is nailing the whole picture.

Now if they had a massive multiplayer arena I’d be there the next day. They don’t so….it would just be a time killer with eye candy for me.

Nomads looking for a home replacement that isn’t there

Kinda like Irish Setter bouncing from yard to yard digging holes looking for a bone that isn’t there.

Yet, end up here to converse about it.

I also see blooming jack if all trades, masters of none.

I’m here until the rest pull their heads out of their butts. If not <shrug> I’ll go play golf with the rest.

[DmonSlyr]

How is AH "not fair"? You can fly whatever plane you want, having an unequal matchup is a product of your own choices.

Also, likewise, I doubt the vast majority here could handle IL2s flight model complexity. You can't just firewall the throttle the entire sortie without blowing your engine up.

Well my point was that if you don't choose the best late war plane in AH, your automatically at a unfair position relatively speaking. Where as these other games are AVA in the same time frame so everything is more relative. That being said, In furball situations, the allied (P51s and P47s) are generally at a disadvantage because they weren't designed for furballing really. But I find that many have probably left AH becasue it's quite the challenge having to fight against better planes (if you dont chose to fly them, and then being ganged by them.) On top of having to fight all axis and allied planes at the same time.

My biggest issues with IL2 and DCS multi-player right now is there is no action on the map and it makes it very tough to find where the action/fight is. And then it's no icons so I have to go blind trying to figure out which one is friendly vs enemy in the furball. By that time my SA is already compromised. Something I'm still getting use to. I stare at a computer all day so staring more at planes with no icons is tough for me.