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Gary Indiana
« on: May 30, 2025, 06:36:10 PM »
Looks like there may yet be a future in steel for this miserable place.

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2025, 07:14:35 PM »
That's so sad what Gary turned into when the mills crashed and burned. You can't fix what's left without 200 bulldozers.
Gary is a 3rd world country all by itself, the existence of subhuman culture way beyond repair. I've been shot at there with multiple rounds, walking 2 blocks to the court house for a ticket. The City Hall clerk got caught selling cocaine over the counter. As soon as you enter Gary, you know you're not in a safe place.

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2025, 08:46:12 PM »
That's so sad what Gary turned into when the mills crashed and burned. You can't fix what's left without 200 bulldozers.
Gary is a 3rd world country all by itself, the existence of subhuman culture way beyond repair. I've been shot at there with multiple rounds, walking 2 blocks to the court house for a ticket. The City Hall clerk got caught selling cocaine over the counter. As soon as you enter Gary, you know you're not in a safe place.

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2025, 10:10:59 AM »
I think so too. Gary was not a nice place when I was stationed at Grissom long ago. Big influx of steel jobs could revive the place.
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2025, 11:31:53 AM »
I think so too. Gary was not a nice place when I was stationed at Grissom long ago. Big influx of steel jobs could revive the place.

It should help, but unless that place starts electing real city leaders, it will always struggle.  Back in the 90's we had a driver layover at a truckstop in Gary.  He called in the next morning to let us know that he was not going to make his delivery appointment because the police had the truckstop on lock down while they finished a murder investigation.  A driver was found decapitated in his truck.  Rumor was that it was a mob hit.   
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2025, 12:09:38 PM »
Mu case was being sniped from 300 yds away, I just heard the zipper sound of the rounds….then the pops. I just kept walking not realizing at first what it was until brick wall landed near me.

The biggest badbutts of Chicago who go there don’t go home the same way. They don’t waste time to intimidate first, they just shoot you. A glance at a gas station can start it.

The TA truck stop is probably the most dangerous.

Most that work in the existing mills don’t live in Gary. I doubt that would change.
Trump even tried to revive Gary with Casino boats. The city paid me to do the sound for new basketball arena and baseball stadium. He even brought the beauty pageant there to the arena I worked. Last a few years. He dragged up and left.They have been trying to expand the airport to help it all, nope.

There are decent people in Gary, but the worst outweighs that by far.
Every person in Gary knows someone killed, knows someone who does or did it, has s family member involved, been a victim if attempts.

In the late 70s or 80s they had to set curfews and have the National Guard with military vehicles patrol the streets to get things in order.

Steal mill and bulldozers, maybe.

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2025, 12:46:52 PM »
Sounds like a typical liberal crap hole...

https://www.gary.gov/office-of-the-mayor

If industry returns will the workforce?

https://www.gary.gov/about

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2025, 01:54:56 PM »
Sounds like a typical liberal crap hole...

https://www.gary.gov/office-of-the-mayor

If industry returns will the workforce?

https://www.gary.gov/about

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You’re recklessly guessing your way through this. ;)

Indiana is a blood red state, thus area is purple. its got nothing to do with party nor politics both parties failed it.. If you want to go that route it wad a conservative bean counter decision to close what made Gary what the movie showed. They also privatized the toll road quadrupling toll prices. This red state handed them the guns. So lets stay off political conspiracies and hypotheticals.

Most of the mills were gone before China started dumping steal.
I lived 15-30 min from it and the mills. I have 65 years of first hand knowledge of it.

The IN police, trust me, get out of line snd they throw a literal army on you.

As far as lame politicians in Gary, you hsve whsts keft to pick from. The smart ones left. That city page,… they gonna down play anything bad, they sell horse crap.

The only decent mayor in 30 yrs was a strict former county judge, when I did work for the city  97-05.

The rest, jokes.
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2025, 02:23:05 PM »
Keep in mind, Gary is not a huge city.
In 1960, when the mills were still moving, the population of Gary, Indiana was 178,000.
The city's decline is attributed to factors like the decline of the steel industry, job losses (1980s recession hit hard), and suburbanization.
In 2023, the estimated population was 67,652.

Crime rates in Gary, Indiana, are 30% higher than the national average. In 1995, Gary had 129 murders, the highest murder rate per capita in the U.S., alongside over 3,000 reported crimes. In 2023, the city reported 325 violent crimes (4.78 per 1,000 residents) and 2,121 property crimes (31.20 per 1,000 residents).

In the past, Gary, Indiana was referred to as the "murder capital" of the United States due to its high homicide rate. Specifically, in 1994, the Chicago Tribune declared Gary as the murder capital, with a homicide rate almost nine times the national level. While the city has made progress in reducing violent crime, including a 23% drop in homicides in 2023, the historical reputation and the impact of the high crime rates remain significant, according to the Gary Police Department and reports from The University of Chicago Magazine

Keep in mind, as per above, crime rate dropped with the population. Most of it is vacant abandoned homes and buildings, or bulldozed, some parts are still within decent. Not every inch of Gary is nuts, but most trying to revive it will be in some denial.

Gary, Indiana was involved in a lawsuit against gun manufacturers, which is now the last one still active. The city's lawsuit, initiated in 1999, is seeking to address the gun violence it has faced, particularly in the 1990s when it was known as the "murder capital". This legal battle against gun manufacturers and retailers is currently the only remaining case of its kind in the nation
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2025, 02:33:31 PM »
Look at the demographic, and then you will know the answer of the source of the violence. The lawsuit is bogus. The holder of the gun is the person responsible for the murder. A gun doesnt magically come to life and kill someone. Thats like suing auto manufacturers or knife manufacturers because their tool is being used wrongly to kill someone
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2025, 02:48:47 PM »
Look at the demographic, and then you will know the answer of the source of the violence. The lawsuit is bogus. The holder of the gun is the person responsible for the murder. A gun doesnt magically come to life and kill someone. Thats like suing auto manufacturers or knife manufacturers because their tool is being used wrongly to kill someone

Gun issue, Totally a political biased POV, void of actual facts, something courts decide. Some need to back away from politics to discover true reality. Each side of the fence is only 50% correct, or what they choose to tell you, neither side is innocent. But you can bet the debates are 100% biased, each excluding 50% reality. One may be more grounded in the middle taking 50% from each side to reach 100% of knowledge. This full ticket voting and deep seated bias is nuts. I know when someone is 100% anchored on one side, the debate is not worth the time out of life that can't be replaced. This tribal war nonsense is nonsense. How many friends have you lost to politics over 10 years, and what has politics done to make your life better to justify it?

It's to the point where the reasoning of other side is ignored due to a stupid label. My family has been here since 1732, my label is American (including Native American).

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2025, 04:59:33 PM »
Gun issue, Totally a political biased POV, void of actual facts, something courts decide. Some need to back away from politics to discover true reality. Each side of the fence is only 50% correct, or what they choose to tell you, neither side is innocent. But you can bet the debates are 100% biased, each excluding 50% reality. One may be more grounded in the middle taking 50% from each side to reach 100% of knowledge. This full ticket voting and deep seated bias is nuts. I know when someone is 100% anchored on one side, the debate is not worth the time out of life that can't be replaced. This tribal war nonsense is nonsense. How many friends have you lost to politics over 10 years, and what has politics done to make your life better to justify it?

It's to the point where the reasoning of other side is ignored due to a stupid label. My family has been here since 1732, my label is American (including Native American).

People who speak politics in public, lust conflict.

In all of that, you did not address the concern of the poster who you quoted, which essentially was, why would
intelligent beings allow an inanimate object dictate their lives or contradict their laws?  Enforcing and protecting our laws seems to be a big issue with close to half of this country these days, so I at least agree with the 50% part.   
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2025, 05:07:31 PM »
Wife is from Logansport. What's left of her family won't be impacted by anything 2 hrs away in Gary. Still, I will be glad to hear of anything positive happening there.
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