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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2025, 11:37:36 AM »
These are the FBI tables from 2019. 2023 is out but hard to find with a new search system. If you want to dig up 2023, go ahead. Ive been reading these for many years, not much change.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-20/table-20.xls

I did mix up gun deaths a touch. Death by gun is still death by gun

State - Total Murders - Murder by Gun
IL - 771 - 647
IN - 247 - 185
CA - 1,679 - 1,142
TX - 1,379 - 1,064

Total Gun Deaths in 2022: 48,204
Firearm Homicides in 2022: 19,651
Firearm Suicides in 2022: 27,032
Record Highs: While the overall number of gun deaths decreased slightly in 2022 compared to 2021, both the number of firearm homicides and suicides were the second highest ever recorded.
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2025, 12:23:01 PM »
Dude, get off your pedestal. You speak nonsense. Drag up the FBI files, or I will, they have a stat page of tables. TX is second only to CA in murder by guns.

No natter what anyone convinces you, it is IMPOSSIBLE to ban guns. PERIOD. You cry be ause you’re addicted to hysteria snd crying over false facts you cling to no matter what proof people shoe you. Thats your fault for believing cons and grifters. The left is not posting political nonsense baseless conspiracy here. The right cannot shut up, you projected your crying on the left.   90% of political post and hijacking's come from the right, so spare us your tears about your foolish  tear because you repeat, you research nothing. Youtube is NOT research.

Your guns cannot be taken, period.



TX #2 in gun violance. Chicago, IL is way down charts, Tx is wors than IN and IL combined.

I'm on a pedestal for providing some statistics.  What are the annual murder by firearm numbers that you are referring to?  You never provided them? 

Also, Chicago isn't a state, and Texas has a much larger population than Illinois so I'm not really sure where you were trying to go there.  Regardless, the latest numbers I've read has Illinois ranked #16 and Texas #19 in murder rate per 100k residents.   
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2025, 12:28:15 PM »
These are the FBI tables from 2019. 2023 is out but hard to find with a new search system. If you want to dig up 2023, go ahead. Ive been reading these for many years, not much change.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-20/table-20.xls

I did mix up gun deaths a touch. Death by gun is still death by gun

State - Total Murders - Murder by Gun
IL - 771 - 647
IN - 247 - 185
CA - 1,679 - 1,142
TX - 1,379 - 1,064

Total Gun Deaths in 2022: 48,204
Firearm Homicides in 2022: 19,651
Firearm Suicides in 2022: 27,032
Record Highs: While the overall number of gun deaths decreased slightly in 2022 compared to 2021, both the number of firearm homicides and suicides were the second highest ever recorded.

Thank you for admitting that my numbers were in fact accurate.  Murder by firearm is what matters most in this instance because "gun violence" is the argument that the left uses when talking gun control or banning.
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2025, 04:42:21 PM »
If you look at the stats by city rather than state you'll see most gun crime comes from big cities. We're talking per capita obviously since that's what matters.
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2025, 06:12:52 PM »
If you look at the stats by city rather than state you'll see most gun crime comes from big cities. We're talking per capita obviously since that's what matters.

You almost hit what I was waiting to see if you picked up on it.
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I don't know, and not going to look, what the hot spots of CA or TX are, I literally live in between the two most murderous cites in the country. My area is also considered in the Chicagoland Area term, even though it's NW Indiana.

You're right, it IS big cities and it IS per capita.
Most big cities ARE run by the Left.

Those numbers for IL and IN,... 95% of those numbers come from those two cities. The rest of both states are very quiet and kind.

The misinterpretations and the ABUSE of DEI, TORCHED the Chicagoland Area in major spike in crimes. Those appointed under the wing of DEI in IL, were absolutely NOT qualified for the job, derelicts. DEI is a great concept on paper, everyone wants things fair, right?...how it was interpreted and abused makes it intolerable, and a lot of crime spiked through the roof. This stuff where, "lets not make the criminals mad, just let them run away" was delirium bias, not to mention the DAs connection to street gangs in her younger years had anything to do with it <eye roll>. The crime came to IN thinking stupid hoosiers are pushovers... here's is their miscalculation,...it's a purple area, not blue, it's a red state, I don't know anyone who doesn't own a gun..They are used to running and people don't have guns for protection in IL....most went home horizontal or in IN blackhole system. They learned the hard way. We don't let you run, we throw an army at you.

I myself, working in Chicago during that era was almost shot twice and almost car jacked once,.. in one month time.

What they did was entirely stupid and destructive,... and the right is right,... what you say happened is exactly what happened, and worse than you know. The demographic IS an issue not spoken out loud. IN THIS SITUATION I wave the Red flag with ya.

See I can agree on reasonable rational concepts from both sides, doesn't mean I'm any label. Why anyone would listen to the far Left or far Right is a bit striking. Both extremes are full of crap, BOTH, to the neck. The last 5 minutes of a football game is all that matters. Everything in between is just time wasting drama. Doesn't matter what they say, if they can't get it done it means zero.

All this time the right cried about guns going away,.. never researched to find out it's mathematically impossible to happen without destroying every inch of the country. 40+ yrs of wasted time and tears over someone ON BOTH SIDES hyping you up with nonsense. Ya bit the hook, line, sinker and arm. Whatever they outlaw they have no way to enforce it, except in small nibbles. REASONABLE left don't want to take all guns, just background checks, and they couldn't if they wanted to.  You had a half-truth baked with nonsense.

I say this about IN comparing to IL. IL is total and complete corruption from head to toe. It is the most corrupt state I've ever been in, hands down. A LOT of fingers in the pie.....OTOH, IN politicians are too stupid and slow to be corrupt, they get caught every time. Good crooks don't get caught.

See, this is where that far right concept that if you don't agree with them on a subject, you're a liberal. That's nonsense, I disagree on a subject, I agree on others, it's called Independent. SO if I say I disagree it's because the true facts don't support your stance.

POINT BEING
It IS the big cities and Progressives had their chance and blew it big time. Another point, they have since been replaced as the people voted them out ASAP. After they were dumped in Chicago and the district DA, crime dumped, the reputation remains.The misuse of DEI ruined the entire concept.

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2025, 06:16:26 PM »
I'm on a pedestal for providing some statistics.  What are the annual murder by firearm numbers that you are referring to?  You never provided them? 

Also, Chicago isn't a state, and Texas has a much larger population than Illinois so I'm not really sure where you were trying to go there.  Regardless, the latest numbers I've read has Illinois ranked #16 and Texas #19 in murder rate per 100k residents.

Chicago needs to be its own state and leave the rest of illinois alone. The gov is doing what he can to turn this state into a 2nd california
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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2025, 09:36:40 PM »
Chicago needs to be its own state and leave the rest of illinois alone. The gov is doing what he can to turn this state into a 2nd california

This one? They haven't had a decent one for about 30 yrs. Both parties are a part of the circus geeks.

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2025, 07:11:46 AM »
Not convinced all diversity picks have the actual intelligence and skills to correctly govern others...seems to be a common theme..

Not convinced the average voter in those governed areas  has the intelligence either..

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Re: Gary Indiana
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2025, 09:15:42 AM »
This admin is a form of DEI, they were not hired on merit, they were hired on loyalty, and it shows. So DEI doesn’t just exist on the left. None of them are qualified. They already complaining that “work is hard”, much easier to just sit on a pod cast mic and bark baseless delirium. Calling people lazy, now they prove they were the lazy. Have no clue how to work. Those put in FBI can’t find the deep state evidence and complaining the work is too hard. They were placed completely unqualified. The world sees it, and WILL take advantage of it.

So ya, its just a left thing is nonsense. Left is open about it, the right hides it. Thats the difference.

IMO the most qualified should get the job, purple or green.

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