Author Topic: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.  (Read 850 times)

Offline Randy1

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One important point in a three country war is a kind of a loss of loyalty to your country.  It is what makes a country players work well together when things line up every once in a while.   Not hard pan loyalty, just good gaming friends working together fun.  It feels good.

NASCAR saw the same thing happen to them.  Brand loyalty faded and so did the fan base. 

Auto country changing seems innocent but has more negative impact than positive.

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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2025, 02:15:35 PM »
I suspect that most of us who auto-change were never loyal to one of the countries in the first place.

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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2025, 02:18:07 PM »
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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2025, 02:27:29 PM »
I understand your points, Randy. However, I also agree with what others have been saying that a game that is too imbalanced is driving people out of the game since is not fun dying all the time or they can fight again with so many enemies getting killed all the time. In my particular case, my friendship in the game is the same with friends and foes, and I am trying to do my best for the country I'm fighting with ( sometimes killing squad members . I believe this could help the nation with a lower numbers but I'm not 100% sure if this is the only or best solution... :salute
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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2025, 02:48:21 PM »
Prime time is usually pretty balanced but prime time only lasts an hour or two at max if it even happens at all.

I think it’s time the game moved down to 2 countries. Where squads and loyalists made up the general bulk and side switchers cover the difference to even teams out.

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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2025, 02:50:34 PM »
Removing auto switch and reducing side-switch timer from the current 6 hours to 1 or 2 hours might be a compromise if "spiez" are still a concern these days.

1 hour would allow for some consistency and still be short enough to hop to another side if desired.  Musical auto-switching chairs creates instabilities, imho, especially when numbers are even or fluctuate rapidly.
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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2025, 03:49:25 PM »
All the replies are sound in thought.  All would be difficult to argue against. 

ZE's point is the strongest argument.  He is one of the best players in the game.  When two countries attack one country, the death rate is very high. 

Auto side balancing has not stopped two countries against one country.  Not sure how that got started but seems to almost constant now.

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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2025, 03:50:17 PM »
Autoswitch is bad in the minds of people with no morals or integrity.  Those of us that are using it fight for the country we are on, not one that we played with before the option. 
Do you have any reasons as to why autoswitch is killing the game?  When you see me on your side you also see me working hard for the success of your team, just like other autoswitchers I know.  If I get switched to another team just pretend I logged off for the night and someone else on the other team logged in.
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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2025, 03:52:43 PM »
All the replies are sound in thought.  All would be difficult to argue against. 

ZE's point is the strongest argument.  He is one of the best players in the game.  When two countries attack one country, the death rate is very high. 

Auto side balancing has not stopped two countries against one country.  Not sure how that got started but seems to almost constant now.

Two countries vs One has been a core component to this game since inception, its human nature for teams to take the easiest path to victory, or their 20% of a side.  Atleast with autoswitch the smallest team has a better chance at defending against the 2v1.  Defending is incredibly easy, often able to hold off 5 attackers with a single defender.  But if your team doesnt have enough to put up that single defender, thats when the game starts to collapse.
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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2025, 06:26:20 PM »
I suspect that most of us who auto-change were never loyal to one of the countries in the first place.

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Could someone explain the reason for having fanatical loyalism to a chess piece that you were randomly assigned to?  :headscratch:
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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2025, 06:29:19 PM »
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Could someone explain the reason for having fanatical loyalism to a chess piece that you were randomly assigned to?  :headscratch:

I can't explain it but I know that back in the day when I was flying with the squads that came over from AW. Souper and Rapier (before he went off the rails) had a lot of loyalty in the squads and country. It seemed to fade over time for me but I guess for some it didn't?

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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2025, 06:32:25 PM »
Prime time is usually pretty balanced but prime time only lasts an hour or two at max if it even happens at all.

I think it’s time the game moved down to 2 countries. Where squads and loyalists made up the general bulk and side switchers cover the difference to even teams out.


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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2025, 07:01:15 PM »
It barely crested 90 Peeps last night… on a Saturday. I feel the slow summer coming on.

Not to be cruel to our morning or afternoon crew, but I usually log if there’s 70-75 or less.

My guess is that once it get below 50 everyone will do the same. Force yourself to say man! Your country needs you :)
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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2025, 07:35:53 PM »
 :rolleyes:

Play the game...
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Re: Auto-country swap is slowly hurting what is left of the game.
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2025, 08:57:07 PM »
Sunday night, Knits had over 50% of the Bish bases. Why? It shouldnt happen.  How many players logged when they logged in and saw that. Just stupid.