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Offline CptTrips

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Re: The DCS F4U
« Reply #180 on: Yesterday at 10:23:30 AM »
I don't get the steam , non steam versions of these things..

Think of Steam as an Amazon for games.

For just about anything on Amazon, you could have just gone straight to the vendors website and ordered.

The advantages of Steam:

* Access and exposure to a vastly larger audience than you could have afforded access to otherwise.
* Butter smooth order processing and your purchase creds are on files so it is nearly a one-click buy experience from impulse to purchase.  The more you can reduce transaction friction, them more impulse buys you can grab.  And with games, emotional impulse is probably 80% of the sale. ;)  Too much transaction friction gives them too many chances to pause and think maybe they should just hold off.  You don't want THAT! ;)
*  The platform handles all the account and card processing. 
* Smoother experience for the user and I prefer one vender to have my bank info, instead of 20 little game companies. Less security surface area to have to protect.

However the disadvantages in DCS' case,

Like I eventually changed my AH account to standalone, if I know and trust the company I'll consider purchasing direct if they have the capability to process.  I know that essentially gives them an extra 30% profit without costing me more.  I can access purchase "Miles" in stand-alone and those are not available in Steam version.  I can access module\terrain trials in stand-alone and those are not available in Steam version.  The down side is I have to give my CC to a bunch of Russians.  I'm sorry...Swiss. ;)

I had started in DCS in Steam mode but eventually decided to convert to standalone.  DCS had a migration process for transferring those licenses so I moved from Steam to stand-alone.  I think it would have been better to start stand-alone.  I never got any retro-award of miles for all those modules I had bought in Steam.  I get it.  There is 30% of those purchases they never got.  But it would have been a nice reward for me taking the time and risk to convert by giving me at least 50% miles credit as a thank you.  I am after all making them an additional 30% profit on futures sales to me.  You're welcome.

Bottom line, For DCS, IL2 and AH least, I think you are better off starting and staying stand-alone buying directly from the developer.  Those are games you commit to and trust the vendor and not just some random fly-by-night game company you never heard of.  I wouldn't give my CC directly to any of those.

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Re: The DCS F4U
« Reply #181 on: Yesterday at 10:26:16 AM »
Sale for those interested..I have enough of them that I will never master lol..

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I "master" one, or at least learn how to deploy all the ground and air weapons, kill ace level enemies, and use all the nav aids in bad weather. Then I move on to another, master it, and forget everything I learned about the previous.

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« Reply #182 on: Yesterday at 10:35:20 AM »
That's why AH is more my style...

I just have to remember to rock my throttle so auto takeoff works...lol

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Re: The DCS F4U
« Reply #183 on: Yesterday at 10:55:03 AM »
I've enjoyed my share of multi-player games and they can be a lot of fun. When they are open to anyone you'll always see at least a few "griefers". Often it's people desperate for attention. Some games provide more isolation from misbehavior than others. I never enjoyed those who disrupted and being old even less so now. This is not a commentary on AH. I think AH has the facilities to ignore those clamoring for attention. Still, a more controlled environment sharing time with those like minded is more to my taste now.
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Re: The DCS F4U
« Reply #184 on: Yesterday at 04:08:44 PM »
6 degrees of the F4U right?

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Re: The DCS F4U
« Reply #185 on: Yesterday at 04:16:52 PM »
Thats fine, but trolling is seeking attention, in the wrong way, seeking conflict is better than what?

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« Reply #186 on: Yesterday at 04:20:53 PM »
I don't troll. Ignore me if you don't want to read my posts. How hard is that? Just sharing something I found interesting. Of course there's no way any WWII plane would stand a chance against any modern fighter if the modern fighter used all the weapons in its arsenal.
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« Reply #187 on: Yesterday at 04:30:15 PM »
A competent operator of an F-18 with 10 AMRAAMs can kill 10 of the best pilots in 10 of the best WWII planes. I've had this sort of argument before and as then it's just silly.
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Re: The DCS F4U
« Reply #188 on: Yesterday at 04:38:23 PM »
A competent operator of an F-18 with 10 AMRAAMs can kill 10 of the best pilots in 10 of the best WWII planes. I've had this sort of argument before and as then it's just silly.

What if each of those 10 WWII planes had one AMRAAM?

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« Reply #189 on: Yesterday at 04:43:42 PM »
6 degrees of the F4U right?



Jeeze. 

Almost as bad as fighting the AI K4. ;)
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« Reply #190 on: Yesterday at 04:49:30 PM »
What if each of those 10 WWII planes had one AMRAAM?

What're ya gonna strap it to the wing with safety wire? ;)
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« Reply #191 on: Yesterday at 05:13:53 PM »
What're ya gonna strap it to the wing with safety wire? ;)

I'm sure they could modify some bomb rack to carry it. I did get to thinking about it and if I remember correctly the AMRAAM need a radar to guild it to the point where it goes pitbull so I guess it really wouldn't work unless it was a night fighter type aircraft. Maybe sidewinders would have been more logical.

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« Reply #192 on: Yesterday at 05:38:43 PM »
I don't know about the original but current AMRAAMs can be launched with the aircraft radar off and never turned on. I guess if you strapped on some AMRAAMS, a radar, a jet engine, and a chaff/flare dispenser, a P-51 might have a chance.
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« Reply #193 on: Yesterday at 05:42:01 PM »
What're ya gonna strap it to the wing with safety wire? ;)

Yeah well from an engineering standpoint that would be stupid. 

You'd use the proper tool for the job.  Well, any job really.


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« Reply #194 on: Yesterday at 06:04:35 PM »
I don't troll. Ignore me if you don't want to read my posts. How hard is that? Just sharing something I found interesting. Of course there's no way any WWII plane would stand a chance against any modern fighter if the modern fighter used all the weapons in its arsenal.

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