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Offline eddiek

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2025, 07:58:42 PM »

Full time, all over the map AI isn’t something I’d prefer.
What I would like to see tried is using AI to augment the lower numbered side(s), to slow down the steam rolling. 
Used to create a temporary defense until human players showed up at a field under attack would also be something I think would be worth exploring.  As soon as human players upped, the AI planes would exit the fight, proportionally until the defensive force was equal or near equal to the attacking force. 
Would there be an outcry?  Of course.
So what?  The majority of the attacks in the MA go against undefended fields.  They already go against a primitive and merely reactive AI…..might be time to urge folks to go where other humans are instead of constantly heading to the fields that have no dar bar. 
Would it be perfect? 
I’m not a fan of AI in general, but implemented correctly, and in small portions, it could actually improve gameplay in my opinion.

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2025, 08:20:43 PM »
Full time, all over the map AI isn’t something I’d prefer.
What I would like to see tried is using AI to augment the lower numbered side(s), to slow down the steam rolling. 
Used to create a temporary defense until human players showed up at a field under attack would also be something I think would be worth exploring.  As soon as human players upped, the AI planes would exit the fight, proportionally until the defensive force was equal or near equal to the attacking force. 
Would there be an outcry?  Of course.
So what?  The majority of the attacks in the MA go against undefended fields.  They already go against a primitive and merely reactive AI…..might be time to urge folks to go where other humans are instead of constantly heading to the fields that have no dar bar. 
Would it be perfect? 
I’m not a fan of AI in general, but implemented correctly, and in small portions, it could actually improve gameplay in my opinion.

Would that eliminate the need for ENY? :noid
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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2025, 08:56:00 PM »

You’d have to ask HT that question, IF he decided to give it a try.

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2025, 09:30:25 PM »
Look for "ahedmiss.exe" in your distro folder.

Watch these:

And refer to Mustangs docs:  https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,382993.0.html

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2025, 10:59:54 AM »
I thought hitech would use the mission editor to have automated AI bombing runs over countries in the main arenas - give us pilots something to shoot down. And have one bombing run that would hit your HQ. Easy to do really as I've played with the ME quite a bit - it's very intuitive.
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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2025, 01:22:05 PM »
I thought hitech would use the mission editor to have automated AI bombing runs over countries in the main arenas - give us pilots something to shoot down. And have one bombing run that would hit your HQ. Easy to do really as I've played with the ME quite a bit - it's very intuitive.

This all exists right now, all that would need to happen is some one create the missions for each terrain, and then setup the mission schedule. This is how the western front arena currently runs.

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2025, 01:56:30 PM »
Ugh!!

It would be more better if it didn’t add to a gamg-bang
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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2025, 02:16:41 PM »
This all exists right now, all that would need to happen is some one create the missions for each terrain, and then setup the mission schedule. This is how the western front arena currently runs.

Dadtallica is interested in learning missions it sounds.  I sent him some help vids I had made for Nef.

Between him, Mr.Fork, Mustang (who's docs I learned from) could form a ME cadre if they are interested. 

My advice, for what it's worth would be for them to get with Nef and and run a couple of his previous FE event missions as learning.  Then maybe make a couple of those and maybe offline.

Next I'd recommend them making a couple of the new missions for your staged mission tab.  I think most all of those were broken anyway and that tech will be very close to what the Melee would be like with repeating schedules.

If it were me, I'd work my way up like that before testing on a Melee.  and maybe just one terrain.  Maybe one of the big ones that have trouble find fights, pick the most hated terrain and see if you can improve it with some missions.  If it flops, they still hate the terrain, no loss. ;)  If it helps, it might rehabilitate a terrain that otherwise causes log-offs.

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2025, 02:19:48 PM »
I imagine it as fun as killing C-47 drones in AW. Thrilling.

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2025, 02:27:35 PM »
A lot of fun will be had scraping pursuers off your six by flying past a friendly.

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2025, 02:29:55 PM »
A lot of fun will be had scraping pursuers off your six by flying past a friendly.

Well, the importance of teamwork is it gives the enemy other targets to shoot at. ;)
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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2025, 02:48:23 PM »
I imagine it as fun as killing C-47 drones in AW. Thrilling.

I’ll have one foot out the door

Are you trying to get everyone to learn how to create missions?  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:

It would be for a different arena than the precious MA it sounds like..

Can someone gun an AI bomber?

AI can be set for different skills sets right?

I don't know anything about missions except how to join them but the possibilities sound interesting..

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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2025, 02:51:41 PM »

Can someone gun an AI bomber?


It's been 6 years, but I don't believe so. 

But Nef used to populate AI formations with walk-on players.  So I guess the tech is close you could just take over an AI formation and then you can switch to gunner just like you do with a normal 3-buff formation now.

But at that point the AI isn't following the defined route any more automatically.  The player has assumed PIC.


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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2025, 04:26:14 PM »
This all exists right now, all that would need to happen is some one create the missions for each terrain, and then setup the mission schedule. This is how the western front arena currently runs.
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Re: State of the Union Address?
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2025, 04:37:09 PM »
This mission subject has bothered me. Why are they so confusing and hard to figure out? What was wrong with the old way missions were set up? I wasn't here when AH2 went to AH3 so I'm lost.
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