Tier List of Sticks

[Animl-AW]

This was a mistake.

Committee is not on talking terms.

Sure had good intentions tho.

Maybe how many times they #1 fighter pilot and not put it up for debate. May be hard to research manually.

[hazmatt]

Sorry but you are not living in reality. I understand the hate the guy gets, but to say he wasnt a great stick is outlandish.

I think this depends on if he was playing on a level playing field or if he had advantages that others did not. I have spoken with someone who no longer plays how test drove some of these "advantages" and they seem to think he was actively using something. He's not the only "great stick" who seemed to have some of these "abilities"

I have watched his films and it seems that he always seemed to have an uncanny ability to preserve his energy state even while pulling very heavy G. I've watched other films like Yucca who's skill doesn't seem to have any of "magical" abilities.

[Vraciu]

I think this depends on if he was playing on a level playing field or if he had advantages that others did not. I have spoken with someone who no longer plays how test drove some of these "advantages" and they seem to think he was actively using something. He's not the only "great stick" who seemed to have some of these "abilities"

I have watched his films and it seems that he always seemed to have an uncanny ability to preserve his energy state even while pulling very heavy G. I've watched other films like Yucca who's skill doesn't seem to have any of "magical" abilities.

Just because you don't understand the physics behind what he did doesn't make it magic.    Anyone can do what he does--if they know how.    No cheating required.

[hazmatt]

Just because you don't understand the physics behind what he did doesn't make it magic.    Anyone can do what he does--if they know how.    No cheating required.

Figures you would pop up to defend you're hero even though it wasn't an attack on him. It was just a statement of what I've been told by somebody who would know.

I'm not talking about physics. This is a game, not a flight simulator.  I'm talking about what I have been told by others about two of the same planes pulling the same g with the "same" fuel load (say 25%)  in the vertical and one of them consistently out climbing/zooming the other. It could be that one had fuel that was lighter or maybe one had a skinny pilot.

[Eagler]

HT allowed Skyyr back into the game..

Don't think he would have done that if he was using a cheat..

I think he was just that good..

It was his obsession with ruining game play for others using multiple accounts, hunting then lying about it with those skills that got him booted imo..

He belongs on the list if any of the others do..

Unless you can put all of them in ma today with the skills they peaked with in game, I can't see an accurate comparison as the game is not what it was once..

A super bowl KOTH!

 

Eagler

[Vraciu]

Figures you would pop up to defend you're hero even though it wasn't an attack on him. It was just a statement of what I've been told by somebody who would know.

I'm not talking about physics. This is a game, not a flight simulator.  I'm talking about what I have been told by others about two of the same planes pulling the same g with the "same" fuel load (say 25%)  in the vertical and one of them consistently out climbing/zooming the other. It could be that one had fuel that was lighter or maybe one had a skinny pilot.

Or it could be that "they" don't understand what they're seeing.

I've killed many a "they" using the exact same techniques and there is no cheating to it.   Angles and physics seem like voodoo to the uninformed.

I've seen guys like BigR do some seemingly impossible things, but I was wise enough even then to recognize SKILL rather than blame it on magic.

[hazmatt]

A super bowl KOTH!

 

Eagler

I think that would be a good way to come up with a list or one of those bracket things that all those with big ego could pound their chests about.

It would be tough for HT to detect a client side modification as it would modify the value it's reporting the server from the client side (something like fuel weight) and without anticheat it would be undetectable. That's why many of the games today are running anticheat to detect modifications to the client side and the variation wouldn't be obvious.

Again, I never said this was in fact the case. I merely repeated what I was told by a former player who was aware of these things and shared with me some of the details.

[DmonSlyr]

Fffft.  Skyyr made you his little bych.

Oh look, its Vraciu. The guy who gamed his hit % in a spit 1 and disappeared when called out for it. 

Let's look at some facts.

1v1 - we are "tied" even though I dont consider our first meeting a true representative of my sill since it was 2am and drunk on a Friday night, but whatever. Regardless I beat him 1v1.

Special events - I have 2 KOTH championship wins. Not just regular KOTH wins. Skyyr never played special events because he was too scared to actually play with an even plane set. Regardless my stats would completely trounce his in special events in any event over my 16 years.

MA - I have 13 more #1 fighter months than Skyyr. Overall, he probbaly had a better points and K/H and than me, but I guess that's pretty easy when you can play 100 hours + months with multiple accounts. I usually always beat his K/D and and K/S.

Realistically - His 2 biggest advantages were flying the fastest cannon planes in the game with crazy good aim. His biggest weaknesses were defense with no E advantage. Even flying the easiest fastest planes he still had to game players positions with multiple accounts.

By all levels of credibility and stats, you are categorically false. I'd rate him an A lister due to his lack of defense ability, lack of special events, and using the easiest fastest cannon planes like 190D, La7s, and Ta152s while still gaming their position to get the E advantage while maintaining roughly low 3.5 k/d on average so really nothing that special there overall besides having enough hours of the day to play to rack up kills in easy modes. (Yawn). He was merely a 2 trick pony (good aim and good E in fast planes with good cannons).

[Animl-AW]

A cpl. very reliable sources told me about Jon Ray being caught “using things” and banned in other sims/games. Even bragging about it in other forums. He seems to get banned a lot.

Doesn’t mean he did it here, but I will never give him 100% credit.

He was let back because someone besides him convinced HT. Lets not split hairs.

What was done to me is not forgotten. And I was one who didn’t know him but stuck up for another chance, being a nice guy. Dumbest thing I ever did in a sim.

The kind of person he is I’d be shocked if he still had all his teeth in his mouth. Big mouth for such a twig arm squirrel. Jon Ray is no ghost to me.

Watching others praise him like some cult god was vomit worthy.

He gone, his name should be gone. He and his side kick V cost us at least 20 players. Something about players not wanting to be where doxxing was going on and fecal farming rabies on 200.

[LCADolby]

Fffft.  Skyyr made you his little bych.

Better than volunteering for the position, just sayin'..