I Believe in the Possibility of...

[AKKuya]

With that said, I am puzzled about a couple of anomalies in creation. #1 As I understand it, everything expands with heat and contracts with cold. Why does water expand when it freezes instead of contracting?

When water freezes, its molecules get arranged in a crystalline structure, thereby attaining a defined shape. This crystalline structure is less dense, and since there are gaps between individual molecules in the structure, the overall volume increases and water ‘expands’.

With that said, I am puzzled about a couple of anomalies in creation. #2 Oxygen and Hydrogen are both extremely flammable, why is it when they are combined, H2O, they put out the fire?

The combustion of hydrogen and oxygen produces water (H2O) through a process known as oxidation. When hydrogen and oxygen react, they release energy in the form of heat, which causes the water vapor to expand rapidly, resulting in an explosion. This is the basic principle of all explosives. The reaction is exothermic, meaning it releases heat, and the resulting water is electrically neutral, making it non-flammable.

[icepac]

Sounds like an inflated earthly ego that needs to face reality and deflation..

I am hoping we are some of the least advanced as we sure act like it..

Eagler

The possibility that earth is the most advanced planet needs to be considered unless you have physical evidence proving another planet is more advanced.   

I don’t know about you but I spent much of the last decade doing aerodynamics testing of the fastest cars on the planet at kennedy space center. 
   
These cars bring out project managers and genuine astronauts over to us because they all like fast cars.   
Yes, we have breached the subject many times and you can’t ignore the possibility that there are no aliens advanced enough to make the trip to earth.

On a side note, we will make an attempt on the SLF runway soon for 330mph.

[Eagler]

If we are the most advanced I feel sorry for the universe...

Pretty sure any group more advanced has better things to do then watch the non stop Jerry Springer show on the 3rd rock from the Sun..

Eagler

[-gg-]

... interdimensional life and existence.

As a student of history, social culture and amateur understanding of astrophysics and quantum mechanics, a lifetime of learning and experience has given me an open mind to extrapolate possible theoretical concepts.  One being the concept that higher states of existence and life has possibly visited our planet in the distant past.

Arthur C. Clarke's quote, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Wikipedia
As a young boy, I checked out library books on the Greek Myths and Legends all the time.  I was fascinated with them, and they are the most known to me compared to the Egyption, Norse, Aztec-Mayan-Incan, and other ancient civilizations.  I will concentrate on the Greek model.

Kardashev scale is a method of measuring a civilization's level of technological advancement based on the amount of energy it is capable of harnessing and using. The measure was proposed by Soviet astronomer Nikolai Kardashev in 1964 and was named after him.

A Type I civilization is able to access all the energy available on its planet and store it for consumption.
A Type II civilization can directly consume a star's energy, most likely through the use of a Dyson sphere.
A Type III civilization is able to capture all the energy emitted by its galaxy, and every object within it, such as every star, black hole, etc Wikipedia

From that established method, Type IV would consume several galaxies of energy, Type V would consume and entire universe of energy, Type VI would consume a multiverse of energy, and a Type VII would consume interdimensional use of energy in theory.

I believe that the Greek myths and legends stem from visits by beings of Type VI or Type VII.  Ancient humans would witness the capabilities of such an advanced being as a supreme being.  Immense power, strength, speed, knowledge, telepathy, telekinesis, pyrokinesis, flight etc...  From these visits and interactions, the birth of the stories began around the campfires through oral tradition passing sown the centuries.  With each retelling, more embellishment to harness the drama, romance and action to captivate the attending audience.

Where is the kernel of truth?  Where does the embellishment start?  That id in the eye of the believer or the skeptic.

Olympus, Atlantis, and the Underworld are real places but not on Earth.  They are Greek names for the homes of the visiting beings.  Sky, Sea, and Earth are represented as concepts that ancient man would understand.  These places are located on a higher dimensional level.  Access to them would require traveling through an interdimensional doorway.  Human physiology isn't equipped to handle that journey.

The visiting beings had to make an assist for that.  That's where the Ambrosia, the Nectar of the Gods, comes in.  The ancient man would understand the concept of a potion or an elixir that you drink or eat as fruit.  This is ingested to make changes in the body for transport to the realms of the visiting beings.  Present day's understanding of science and medicine relates to DNA, RNA, amino acids, cell division with new programming and etc.  The list is long.

This applied to the other civilizations as well.  This is possibly how humans were moved to far corners of the Earth through advanced transportation methods by the visiting beings.  This could account for similarities between the various civilizations where they couldn't have contact between all of them separated by the continents and the oceans.

Best part is they could still be visiting.  Someone you know could be one in disguise.  Some might have been involved with humans and had children.  There could be inter-dimensional DNA in the human genome waiting to be realized.

Just a possibility that could fit the facts.

do you believe in the possibility of a creator? Or are you one of the types that can believe in Aliens, Bigfoot, UFO's, and anything else BUT that there could be a God/creator?

[DmonSlyr]

It's highly unlikely we are the most advanced planet. Our planet is like hundreds of millions younger than other planets in other galaxies. Our mainstream timeline of humanity which is probably complete BS says humanity started about 20k years ago. 20k years is nothing in the universe. Supposedly we only got technically savy in the last hundreds years. Thats an incredibly small time. So imagine a society that's been around for hundred of millions of years. I imagine that AI ships floating in space for hundreds of years with a population that's being born and grown..  I bet some of them live in a ship their entire lives, but the ships are probably missive non the less.

We've gone from sailboats to rocket ships in the span of 200 years. Just imagine another 20k years from now. How about 100s of millions of years from now? Its hard to fathom. Its also hard to fathom how large the universe is and now long travel time would take.

I believe humanity has been wiped out a few times in our world. From massive mud floods, to solar flares, to meteors, all the above. There to me is just no way humanity had the ability to build the most stunning buildings 800 years ago Supposedly that last longer and are way more stunning than what we build today. To say slaves had that much skill is also a fallacy IMO. But we also have areas that look like they were scorched and melted out in the mid east. I believe they had flying and laser technology long ago, but after the reset, they burned and stole history to fabricate our own history. The population #s are a lie IMO. No way we just went from like 20m in 1800 to 8 billion in 2025 but humanity never grew that large in the 20k years before? It's strange to me. I think the Vatican is holding many artifacts in its basement that would reshape our history, but they cannot expose it becasue it would change everything away from the current main stream narrative that we are the most advanced society ever on the planet. Did giants exist? Were Blimps used fare more than we know? Did Tartaria, Mu, Atlantis exist? Did Zilant dragons exist? Why so much symbology of them curved beautifully on old buildings? I certainly feel there is a history deleted from our teachings for a reason and being covered up by the Vatican and city of London.

[AKIron]

I'm not a fan of Neil deGrasse Tyson, though I have bought and read one of his books, but he explained why the speed of light is an absolute quite well I think. Spacetime. Per Einstein, motion through space slows motion through time and vice versa. When you reach the speed of light you are no longer moving through time. How could you go faster? That would seem to put a severe limit on interstellar travel.

[Eagler]

Eagler

[AKKuya]

do you believe in the possibility of a creator? Or are you one of the types that can believe in Aliens, Bigfoot, UFO's, and anything else BUT that there could be a God/creator?

The human brain is capable of understanding a lot.  Faith is the belief without physical or visual proof.  Science is belief through measured and analytical processes.  I believe in both.  Each supports the other.  True symmetry.   

[AKKuya]

... that HiTech has multiple BBS accounts to gauge the player base with ideas.

The amount of discussion on so many topics with a few select account holders taking one side or another.  Anyone here posting could be Dale in disguise.

[DmonSlyr]

... that HiTech has multiple BBS accounts to gauge the player base with ideas.

The amount of discussion on so many topics with a few select account holders taking one side or another.  Anyone here posting could be Dale in disguise.

Nah, his writing is easy to recognize. I've been a here a while 

[JimmyD3]

The Catholic Church did not exist before 365 AD.

[DmonSlyr]

I think its interesting that we've detected objects like 3IAtlas. Our (newest "comet") only third one ever recorded floating near the solar system. Supposedly are billions of years old but just so happened to fly in at 130,000 mph to get some sun rays and fly off. This new one is 20km long mostly C02 and remitting a trail pointing to toward the sun. Very interesting!

[LCADolby]

Nah, his writing is easy to recognize. I've been a here a while 

If he used Spellcheck or Grammerly he could blend in

[AKKuya]

Let's talk sentient and spacefaring life from another planet orbiting a distant start from us using the scale of the expanding observable universe.

1) Life could have begun, rose and fell billions of our solar years ago.  Future exo-archaeologist dreams come true.
2) Life could have begun, rose and fell millions of our solar years ago.  Future exo-archaeologist dreams come true.
3) Life could have begun, rose and fell thousands of our solar years ago.  Future exo-archaeologist dreams come true.

That takes care of time scale issues.

1) Life could have begun, rose and stagnated in development.
2) Life could have begun and never rose to any development.

That takes care of technological development.

1) Life could have begun, rose and fell due to self-war.
2) Life could have begun, rose and fell due to disease.
3) Life could have begun, rose and fell due to natural disasters.
4)  Life could have begun, rose and fell due to invasive species.

That takes care of internal and external factors.

1)  Life could have begun, rose and thrive light years away.
2) Life could have begun, rose and thrive tens of light years away.
3) Life could have begun, rose and thrive hundreds of light years away.
4) Life could have begun, rose and thrive thousands of light years away.
5) Life could have begun, rose and thrive millions of light years away.
6) Life could have begun, rose and thrive billions of light years away.

That takes care of distance issues.

1) Life could have built generational ships to cross the expanse between stars and galaxies.
2) Life could have portal technology to connect the vast distances of galaxies and stars within them.
3) Life could have developed mental capabilities to explore the universe without leaving the home planet.
4) Life could have... imagination has no limits on possibilities.

That takes care of transportation issues.

These are real down-to-earth statements for explanation with how we understand physics and potential technology.  The odds of a sentient lifeform, surviving technological process, leaving home system, and crossing vast distances to enter our solar system, land on our planet, and be present during our time on the planet for both species to meet.  Very astronomical.

1) Life could be non-carbon based.
2) Life could be non-corporeal based.
3) Life could be non-linear based.
 
That takes care of recognition issues by humans.

1) Life may not be able to verbally communicate.
2) Life may not be able to translate communication.
3) life may not have limbs to visually communicate.

That takes care of conversation issues.

1) Life might not recognize humans as life.
2) Life might not recognize conditions on Earth as life.

That takes care of recognition issues by alien life.

The odds now have just skyrocketed ever so beyond astronomical.

1) Life might be benevolent.
2) Life might be warlike.
3) Life might be in need of new food sources.
4) Life might be in need of more natural resources.

That takes care of intention.

On the other hand, life is splendid among the stars cooperating or fighting and waiting for our arrival on the galactic stage. 
3) L

[Shuffler]

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