Honest Information on Competition WW2 Games

[Animl-AW]

Regardless of the reason they are doing something........

When's your next update?

As long as Korea is not the desperate update here.
Just because some update, doesn’t mean they are worthy.
DCS was updating and that didn’t go well either.

But I get your point.

[Shuffler]

I have 3 kids that I play with so one account for each of them and 1 for me.

The reason you need an account is because each account can be customized and can be completely different from each other. In War Thunder for example you can customize your research for new vehicles/planes. My son is researching the US line of tanks, my daughter is researching the German line and I'm researching the Russian tank tree. The same goes for air. On IL2 GB one of my kids might want a IAR‑80 / IAR‑81 collector plane while another might want a TA-152. This is the kind of things that having an account tracks.

There is no need for a credit card ever in War Thunder. You can play the entire game forever for free. In IL2 you will need a credit card for a one time purchase of a theater/plane set you want to purchase. After your initial purchase in IL2 you won't ever need a credit card again unless you want to add collector planes or theaters to your account.

Ahhhh ok.

[Animl-AW]

That's  because they didn't really do any updating for 20 years and only now are starting to make rapid improvements.

HiTech

Make us proud again, brother

[DmonSlyr]

I am very skeptical. I would certainly have a short time effect, but if it were just about the numbers, Ah would have never fallen from 300 to 30 players online during euro prime time.
We had full arenas and people still left (which is totally normal) and could not be replaced (that's the problem).

Also, I think the way Ah is set up makes it difficult to implement a good working f2p scheme, the main problem maybe being the non-tiered nature of AH's single main arena and the kind of gameplay when the numbers are very low.

I think it would be beneficial to have a "spectator" mode for the MA. So players could see whats going on in the game. While many left, most never stopped in again because it would cost them $15 just to see the game, and if they didnt have much time to play that month, it wouldnt be worth it. Most players simply dont come back for that reason. For example, I wouldn't pay $15 for Chivilry or BF5 ect just to see if I like the game again, and I'd probably get bored with it after a couple weeks since its not my main enjoyment of gaming. Heck those games are one time payments I can go play anytime I want to check out the game again. The steam count of players doesnt help us at all either. Getting a teenager to pay the subscription is extremely rare as even back in 2006 when I started, it was rare to find guys like me who loved the game so much his father paid for the game for him to play after H2H shut down. If I hadn't had H2H, the MA would have been way to overwhelming with too far of flights.

AH doesnt need 1k players online. Just 200 and that makes it so much better. Its just unfortunate we can't push more commercials on YouTube. toejam YouTube is scamming everyone with AI China Garbage and we cant even get a commercial for AH on there atleast?

[CptTrips]

I think it would be beneficial to have a "spectator" mode for the MA. So players could see whats going on in the game. While many left, most never stopped in again because it would cost them $15 just to see the game, and if they didnt have much time to play that month, it wouldnt be worth it. Most players simply dont come back for that reason. For example, I wouldn't pay $15 for Chivilry or BF5 ect just to see if I like the game again, and I'd probably get bored with it after a couple weeks since its not my main enjoyment of gaming. Heck those games are one time payments I can go play anytime I want to check out the game again. The steam count of players doesnt help us at all either. Getting a teenager to pay the subscription is extremely rare as even back in 2006 when I started, it was rare to find guys like me who loved the game so much his father paid for the game for him to play after H2H shut down. If I hadn't had H2H, the MA would have been way to overwhelming with too far of flights.

AH doesnt need 1k players online. Just 200 and that makes it so much better. Its just unfortunate we can't push more commercials on YouTube. toejam YouTube is scamming everyone with AI China Garbage and we cant even get a commercial for AH on there atleast?

At the very least trials should reset every 6-12 months.

[AKKuya]

I gather none of the competition has any type of Special Events style gameplay?

[Spikes]

I gather none of the competition has any type of Special Events style gameplay?

Not anything 1:1 as far as I know. A couple IL2 servers have campaigns but it's not a timed event where everyone launches at the same time. I've thought about trying to run something FSO style on my IL2 server but haven't really had the time to dedicate to creating proper missions/targets/etc.

I think War Thunder would provide the best capability to do events closest to AH, but that would require the ability to have/host custom high-capacity servers. But I think WT would be ideal due to the sheer amount of planes and customizability they have (loadouts, variants, etc).

[hazmatt]

I gather none of the competition has any type of Special Events style gameplay?

Yes, but it's different. It's Esports. I know they have different rank competitions but this was the first one I was able to find.This trailer might show how it works. You'll notice the squads all have custom paint on their vehicles for example. It's kind of a team play competition.



And this is the event on twitch. I think it goes on for over 5 hours. (it won't embed)

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2637842437?t=0h0m3s

[AKIron]

Of course Eagle Dynamics do not themselves host DCS servers or events. There are many players that do host persistent servers and special events. They aren't hard to find.

[CAV]

WW2OL has special events but not as we think of them...

Most WW2OL events are in-game operations.  Special events organized by the community or developers, showcasing specific unit types (like Bailey Bridges, Or other new equipment) or large-scale combined arms assaults. These events usually take place During Normal persistent campaign. Not a separate event outside of the campaign.

[Meatwad]

Last "event" they had was a few days ago where for a few days everything was unlocked for free. But no, no special event server to log into

[Shuffler]

I think it would be beneficial to have a "spectator" mode for the MA. So players could see whats going on in the game. While many left, most never stopped in again because it would cost them $15 just to see the game, and if they didnt have much time to play that month, it wouldnt be worth it. Most players simply dont come back for that reason. For example, I wouldn't pay $15 for Chivilry or BF5 ect just to see if I like the game again, and I'd probably get bored with it after a couple weeks since its not my main enjoyment of gaming. Heck those games are one time payments I can go play anytime I want to check out the game again. The steam count of players doesnt help us at all either. Getting a teenager to pay the subscription is extremely rare as even back in 2006 when I started, it was rare to find guys like me who loved the game so much his father paid for the game for him to play after H2H shut down. If I hadn't had H2H, the MA would have been way to overwhelming with too far of flights.

AH doesnt need 1k players online. Just 200 and that makes it so much better. Its just unfortunate we can't push more commercials on YouTube. toejam YouTube is scamming everyone with AI China Garbage and we cant even get a commercial for AH on there atleast?

Youtube is full of scam commercials. The ad with the real dog that they pawn off as their AI dog. When you get it, it is nothing more than the hop hop bark bark toy. Doesn't even look half real. The laser gun cutter/welder. Order it and it is actually just a cheap solder gun. This is just two of many.

[DmonSlyr]

Youtube is full of scam commercials. The ad with the real dog that they pawn off as their AI dog. When you get it, it is nothing more than the hop hop bark bark toy. Doesn't even look half real. The laser gun cutter/welder. Order it and it is actually just a cheap solder gun. This is just two of many.

The V8 model engine. The old man going out of business selling fine leathers. These are others as well. Ive heard youtube is getting kickback for allowing this. I hope a credit card company sues them or they get investigated by the BBB because this is out of control.

[Animl-AW]

AH scenarios are a 35 + yr tradition, the rest are wannabes.

[TheBug]

I know of no other game that charges a monthly subscription with zero development for years.  Not a good recipe.  Should be a one time purchase at this point.  It's the principle of it, not the cost for me.