Under what circumstances should a mod mute a player?

[molybdenum]

I mentioned on 200 about being called out ON 200 recently by a teammate who wanted bad guys after his squad leave them alone and go after me instead. Got a 10 mute without warning. No bad words from me at all, just asking Kenai if he thought that was a good thing. I got a rigamarole from him about how I had done objectionable things in the past and of course, he said, both what Joker did and what I had done were bad. But when I asked about these things I had supposedly done in the past he didn't remember what they were. But that they were bad. And the mute happened a minute or two later.

Anyway. I said nothing objectionable in the slightest: just called out bad behavior. I didn't even bring it up as a topic: it was an aside to an ongoing conversation.
Is that sufficient for a mute?
What is?

[hazmatt]

I mentioned on 200 about being called out ON 200 recently by a teammate who wanted bad guys after his squad leave them alone and go after me instead. Got a 10 mute without warning. No bad words from me at all, just asking Kenai if he thought that was a good thing. I got a rigamarole from him about how I had done objectionable things in the past and of course, he said, both what Joker did and what I had done were bad. But when I asked about these things I had supposedly done in the past he didn't remember what they were. But that they were bad. And the mute happened a minute or two later.

Anyway. I said nothing objectionable in the slightest: just called out bad behavior. I didn't even bring it up as a topic: it was an aside to an ongoing conversation.
Is that sufficient for a mute?
What is?

I think "sufficient" is pretty much whatever the mod feels is "sufficient" and its usually not imposed equally in my experience.

The best example I could give you is if you were in an argument with another guy who thought Coke was better then Pepsi and you said Pepsi was better then Coke. In my experience if the mod likes Coke then you will get muted and the other guy will be able to continue on saying how great Coke is without any action against him by the mod.

[The Fugitive]

This is one of those times I wish Hitech was a bit more involved here. I always loved when he posted the logs showing the "why" a person got muted. It NEVER worked out well for the poster. 

It doesnt take much. You might have gotten warned and if you said to a MOD" but he said it too!", or "I didnt say that!" the MOD WILL mute you. Confronting a MOD is instant mute.

[hazmatt]

This is one of those times I wish Hitech was a bit more involved here. I always loved when he posted the logs showing the "why" a person got muted. It NEVER worked out well for the poster. 

It doesnt take much. You might have gotten warned and if you said to a MOD" but he said it too!", or "I didnt say that!" the MOD WILL mute you. Confronting a MOD is instant mute.

I agree. I think it would be nice if it was public record but then again it would be nice to be able to face your accuser too.

The only challenge seems that there were times where I was muted that HT seemed unable to locate it in the logs for some reason a month or 2 later. I don't know this for a fact as I was told this by a 3rd party who was trying to convince me to stick around.

As I was feeling a nudge toward the door I pretty much stop chatting on 200 so I didn't have to worry about it. I kinda sucked because blabbing with my buddies on 200 was much of the fun  of the game for me.

And another thing I learned was when you're were muted you couldn't even use the check 6 button to warn your teammate he was about to get eaten! lolz

[Animl-AW]

I was around the convo. Ya even took a jab at me, when I was "betting for you". <shrug>
Wasn't horrible. I've seen worse. However, ya kinda dragged it out into a mild "Room Disruption", which sometimes includes scrolling a rant for long periods. A strong RD a mute might be longer.

Would I have muted you? Maybe not. But I may have missed part of it. Pushing Kenai77 for answers or opinions to a personal dispute may not have been the right path. Cornering him def not the right path, now you're disrupting an innocent player's fun time. I know ya didn't mean to, but it happens.

Like I said, I may have missed something.

I know some who intentionally tempt the mods, then whine about the reaction to their trolling of a mod. I won't mention the name here, that would be wrong.

Here's a point to ponder, 10 min is time to take a breath. It's not life shattering. But it can be annoying when you're heated up.

We made major accomplishments with 200 civility. It's actually a pretty fun place now. Mods are rarely 'needed'.

Also take in account, some of it is automated, it's not always a human mod. Not sure what it would be, but ya may have triggered something.

relax, let it go, it's not life changing.

[mERv]

That ain’t right at all

[fuzeman]

<SNIP>No bad words from me at all, just asking Kenai if he thought that was a good thing. I got a rigamarole from him about how I had done objectionable things in the past and of course, he said, both what Joker did and what I had done were bad.
<SNIP>

Joker is a squad mate and I’m pretty sure you mean J0KER, fwiw.

[Gooss]

Skuzzy used to say that mods generally will give a warning first. Then the player who continues whatever they were warned for will get muted.

That answers the question posed in the subject line.

I’m guessing you don’t think you should have been warned. Since you brought your complaint to the BBS, you probably didn’t cease and desist after the warning. So, the mute was inevitable.

Of course, I could be wrong.

[Animl-AW]

Well, I think some view AH 200 as "R" rated,... it's not, it's all age "G" rated. Most games are. Ya gotta keep that in mind before spewing.
No one is trying to chase anyone out, that thought is absurd and a form of denial. UNLESS you're a repeat vulgar offender. Even then, no biz wants to lose a customer. It will always be the last resort. However, some love finding where that white line is and push the envelope, then blame the mod when they find it.

This is a mild case.

A 10 min mute doesn't even move the needle.

[Shuffler]

This is one of those times I wish Hitech was a bit more involved here. I always loved when he posted the logs showing the "why" a person got muted. It NEVER worked out well for the poster. 

It doesnt take much. You might have gotten warned and if you said to a MOD" but he said it too!", or "I didnt say that!" the MOD WILL mute you. Confronting a MOD is instant mute.

This!

[mERv]

I know who your problem mod is 

Average to mediocre player who definitely overcompensates…. 

[molybdenum]

Thanks for replying, all, it was truly meant to be a frustrated one-off but I got another warning for something witty but equally unobjectionable 10 minutes ago and objected to it (of course) so now it's a 60 minute thing and here we are again.

Mods were given mod privilege to HELP the game. Right?

Why mute ppl/ drive ppl off just because they are accurate and wittier than you (the mod) except to chest thump and say "Seeee! I own you!"?
While maybe vaguely aware that that attitude hurts the game big picture but never mind, it's dying anyway, let me get my thrills while I can.
Opinions?

[The Fugitive]

Thanks for replying, all, it was truly meant to be a frustrated one-off but I got another warning for something witty but equally unobjectionable 10 minutes ago and objected to it (of course) so now it's a 60 minute thing and here we are again.

Mods were given mod privilege to HELP the game. Right?

Why mute ppl/ drive ppl off just because they are accurate and wittier than you (the mod) except to chest thump and say "Seeee! I own you!"?
While maybe vaguely aware that that attitude hurts the game big picture but never mind, it's dying anyway, let me get my thrills while I can.
Opinions?

You can NOT question, talk back to, or argue with a MOD. It is an automatic mute.

Just shut up, heed the warning and move on and you will not have any trouble. Why is this so hard to understand?

[molybdenum]

You can NOT question, talk back to, or argue with a MOD. It is an automatic mute.

Just shut up, heed the warning and move on and you will not have any trouble. Why is this so hard to understand?

I didn't engage the mod at all. Yet the mute (10min). When I objected, 60, sure.
Is this where the game is going?

[hazmatt]

...where the game is going?

I don't think there' any "going". I think it's already there.

If you got on the wrong side of the Mod I'm pretty sure you're going to experience a bunch more of the same treatment for saying much less. (At least that was my experience)