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Offline mERv

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NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« on: March 25, 2026, 08:15:58 PM »
NDIsles has never been an action friendly map. In myopinion it has always been a poor map since the changeover to AH3. Why on earth does this map continue to exist in the main arena? It is an action killing map that requires the most time investment out of any map in the game. For all of the complaints out there you would think the same standard to action-killing would apply when we cant break 50 players at any given time during peak. Kenai77 did all he can do to improve it but this is unsalvageable.

NDIsles has to go
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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2026, 09:48:02 PM »
Nope one of the best OG maps. There was constant action tonight, even though there was only 60 players at 9PM EST.

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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2026, 09:49:16 PM »
This map and several others would greatly benefit from additional cross-water gv spawns.
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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2026, 09:51:54 PM »
This map and several others would greatly benefit from additional cross-water gv spawns.

I’m always advocating for being able to have access to deep bases. I would like to see maps made more in a ribbon pattern than a pie chart. I feel there should be some uncapturable bases, deep in enemy territory for both opposing countries on all sides.
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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2026, 07:02:53 AM »

How about pt spawns at any field that borders water? .......or, making current pt spawns spawnable.     

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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2026, 08:28:41 AM »
I feel there should be some uncapturable bases, deep in enemy territory for both opposing countries on all sides.

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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2026, 09:41:48 AM »
I think what would solve this maps problem may be adding a minimum of 2 more cv group per country and/or 1 m3 spawn per island. Yes this map would fall quickly if a country actually goes on a run. Not sure how that is a bad thing either. What drives action in the MA is the war. What drives action needs to be preserved and encouraged.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2026, 09:43:55 AM by mERv »
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"Ever wonder why its always b-17s and B-24s? It allows him an extreme advantage over other players hence his bomber kill count, that and his lazer beam guns"Diaster
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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2026, 10:05:40 AM »
How about pt spawns at any field that borders water? .......or, making current pt spawns spawnable.   

We have the baltic map with an insane number of useless pt spawns.   If anything, the spawns should be made closer to enemy fields/beaches and allow for lvt's as well.

<aside: I'd love to have "dd"  sherman tanks available.  The 75mm lvt is... less than optimal for anything.>

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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2026, 10:06:35 AM »
I think what would solve this maps problem may be adding a minimum of 2 more cv group per country and/or 1 m3 spawn per island. Yes this map would fall quickly if a country actually goes on a run. Not sure how that is a bad thing either. What drives action in the MA is the war. What drives action needs to be preserved and encouraged.

and "dd" amphibious shermans!!  https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,411366.0.html


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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2026, 11:40:49 AM »
What drives action in the MA is the war. What drives action needs to be preserved and encouraged.
I'd argue what drives action is being able to see enemies. Blowing up HQs is counter intuitive to this.
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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2026, 11:41:29 AM »
Noooooo, there are a couple other maps like bowlMA or Oceania that need to go first. ND is atleast condensed where you can find some kind of action and enjoy fun CV battles off the coast. These huge maps are too overwhelming for most new players returning and if they log in and  see 1 tiny dar and nothing on the other side, its probably gonna be a log for them. Or they can switch teams and realize they made a mistake or didnt switch to the side that achieves their desires and log. We need the maps with condensed action. Condensed action is what most peoole enjoy. Being involved in a battle with larger groups of teams on all sides to make the battle feel large and grow the dar bars. Darbars are what grow the #s. Nothing else, but they have to be balanced for a bit to make the battle fun.
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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2026, 03:48:51 PM »
The country that has V4 like the Rooks did last night have no chance of fighting back on tank island.

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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2026, 04:13:40 PM »
This map and several others would greatly benefit from additional cross-water gv spawns.

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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2026, 05:32:26 PM »
The country that has V4 like the Rooks did last night have no chance of fighting back on tank island.

Yup.. 4 should have remained an air base. Among other issues with the 2nd version of this map.

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Re: NDIsles2 performing as badly as Buzzsaw
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2026, 07:49:14 AM »
The center island should have one uncaptureable base for each country...

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