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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2026, 02:54:03 PM »
Lol. Hide my head in the sand.

All I said was that I would love to try a two-country map. Seems like that causes some kind of fit even just saying that simple thing.

I'm not complaining about anything. I'm not the one thinking I know what other people want in the game. I simply said that I would like to try a two country map. Seems like even just saying that that's what I would like to try causes heart palpitations or something.

I never cared what anybody did or how they like to play the game.

Fugitive, you're super opinionated on things and that's fine. But all I said was that I would like to try out two country map. No big effing deal.
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2026, 03:03:35 PM »
I'll add one last thing.

I don't care at all about numbers on each country or side balancing. That doesn't make me want to log off when I see that I'm outnumbered. I just want to be able to find some action on the map somewhere.

I don't like any kind of manipulation of my behavior. Like the eny system and I don't like it when people suggest that people don't self-regulate. Like self-regulate to hop around countries or whatever. I'm not interested in balancing the game or being responsible for that. I just stick to where I'm at because I know the people there and I want to fly for a couple of hours and have a good time.

The worst thing in any kind of online game is a bunch of Karens and cry babies.

The eny thing has always been irritating. Because I don't think it makes any sense, and especially now when the numbers are so low. Like when there's 20 people on my country, 10 on another and maybe five on another and then I look at the map and I see those two other countries are fighting each other and I can't even get to the fight or, I'm actually still outnumbered and I have to suffer the eny. Because they don't work. It doesn't work with those low numbers. I that makes me irritated and I'll just either wait in the tower until I can fly something halfway decent or I'll log off. More often than not what I find is that people just log off on my side so then the eny goes away. So I guess if that's the idea behind it then it's working well! Get people to log off. Usually the eny doesn't last very long so that's one good thing. But the reason why it doesn't last very long is because people log off on the side that have the eny. I've never noticed it rebalance any other way than people just logging off on the side that has the high eny .

So I guess that is a complaint right? Like I'm a complainer? Lol.

People unwilling to even try something new like the two side map. Because they  "know" it won't work. Lol.
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2026, 04:00:00 PM »
The game breaks with 2 countries, see Special Event maps with all 3 sides still available.  :old:
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2026, 04:02:50 PM »
Different strokes...

Less than 100 on last night and it still had good fights from 8 to 9 when I was online..

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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2026, 04:11:57 PM »
The game breaks with 2 countries, see Special Event maps with all 3 sides still available.  :old:

In what way does it break? I'm curious I'm not trying to be a smart-ass.

Wasn't the old axis versus allies arena two countries? The only difference would be enabling all the planes for each country.
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2026, 06:08:05 PM »
FYI, moving from a 3 country game to a 2 country game would require major coding changes. Not going to happen. :rolleyes:
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2026, 07:01:19 PM »
FYI, moving from a 3 country game to a 2 country game would require major coding changes. Not going to happen. :rolleyes:

This is the main reason it won’t happen. But better reasons exist.

I have my list of wishes too. But I look at it this way, it is what it is. Even if nothing changes it’s not what I call deal breakers, for me. If something does change its icing on the cake.

Every one of these subjects have been rewound constantly since I’ve been back, probably longer. Same ideas, same replies, same players. Nothing new or inventive. Some have gone on since 35 yrs ago in AW. It’s painful. lol

Never anything positive or happy here, almost ever. Always downerville.

I sum it all up like this
Everyone can name games with modern graphics.
Name a game with better fights, even with lower numbers

You need number increase yet the bbs in a word cloud is “low numbers, everything sucks, don’t bother” awesome way to get numbers. :rolleyes:

This will all be repeated next week.
Surprised people don’t slit their wrist after an hour of reading here. (J/k)

All one has to do is name one wish and the mountain of complaints recycle.

TRY EVENTS.

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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2026, 08:06:28 PM »
In what way does it break? I'm curious I'm not trying to be a smart-ass.

Wasn't the old axis versus allies arena two countries? The only difference would be enabling all the planes for each country.

I'm unsure, HiTech may know, all I have ever heard from the grapevine is that the maps break.

As far as I am aware all three countries must be on each map, even the AvA was 3; the unused 3rd country was moved into the far corner of the maps well out of the way.
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2026, 08:12:27 PM »

You need number increase yet the bbs in a word cloud is “low numbers, everything sucks, don’t bother” awesome way to get numbers. :rolleyes:


You'll probably find most don't realise the BBS exists until they've been around for a while.

Even after the Steam release new player influx they seldom found the BBS or even cared to.
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2026, 07:56:39 AM »
You'll probably find most don't realise the BBS exists until they've been around for a while.

Even after the Steam release new player influx they seldom found the BBS or even cared to.

Return players know.
I doubt it takes long for noobs to find it, especially when they need help.
Current players get pushed over the fence.

Doesn’t matter, some have habits that will never be broken, they know better and it’s up to someone else to change.

Said it my first month back, the game isn’t killing the game, the players are.
It’s a broken record. Same subjects will run next week by the same players. Go ahead, speak of one setting and the spiral begins.

Of course, seems no one has the nads to just ask HT directly of the possibilities of a change. If he says no, kill the subject dead.

Like that junky addicted to the needle more than what goes through it, some are just addicted to crying, subject almost doesn’t matter. Same people ask “where’d everyone go?”

Even the “rational” who try to explain blow right into negative dialog.

Side point, for the “can’t find fights” tribe. Oldman logs on for 20-30 min. He has no problem finding multiple fights. I have never logged on and couldn’t find a fight, ever.

A pattern is, those who complain in the false narrative about no fights, also just happen to be point mongers. What they really want is easy kills to be #1. Good luck with that, the game is not all about “you”. Get a grip.

My words might affect some, that pattern is for 2-3 days and right back to recycling.

Nothing happy or positive happens here, the addiction has mile deep roots.

It is what it is. But if I listen to people here I’d be gone already. I just happen to defy defeatist and doomsayers. I still have fun even when my butt is handed to me.

Another pattern, Players who play events complain the least.

These words above, forgotten in 3.7 minutes. Wasted air. Ya can’t please the un-pleasable.

<shrug> players not knowing off bbs is not true, its a point to retain the status quo. Its an excuse.

Some don’t wear the pants at home so they want to wear the pants here.
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2026, 08:09:08 AM »
FYI, moving from a 3 country game to a 2 country game would require major coding changes. Not going to happen. :rolleyes:

I know nothing about what it would take, but we did already have axis vs Allies for a long time. That was two sides. The main difference was the plane set available.

What kind of major coding changes would it require, Jimmy. I have no idea but would be interested in hearing how that would break down.
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2026, 09:16:13 AM »
Well, for starters the maps themselves are designed for 3 countries, they would all need to be redone.

Then when everyone flees to the country with biggest numbers, the winning country, like IL-2 you might need AI fighters to balance.it’s prone to imbalance.

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When it causes more problems than it solves the game was just destroyed. Experimenting with the MA and it fails either stick a fork in it or redo it all over again, but the damage would be done.

Just take note, no one goes to AvA, if it was really a good idea it would be full

There is only a handful of players who want 2 sides. Players are still angry or gone about s small group who pushed the icon dar, got it, then left.

HT and Pyro were part if this same debate years ago and why 2 actually doesn’t work, the list it diesn’t work in this format us much longer than a guessing list that it would, on top of he’s not going to make any major changes. It certainly wouldn’t be AH anymore. And if it fails that guessing just sank us. He has a system, he’s just nit going to chance destroying it

Gamg bangs would be much worse.

The list goes on. After 35 yrs of this subject, in AW too, I’m done with it. :)


The few who push it the most fail to be able to go into verifiable detail why it would work better. Its just a guess.

3 sides gives checks and balances to one country controlling the game.




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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2026, 09:28:43 AM »
No one has answered the question, what other game has better fights? Suddenly we get crickets

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« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2026, 09:44:16 AM »
Just start off with the axis versus allies map. Just try it out see how it goes.

By the way last night I was on. Well early in the morning. My country has six members, another country had five and another country had four in the e n y prevented me from flying a b-29. Lol. That's kind of ridiculous.

Like I said. It shouldn't be kicking in on such low numbers at all.
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Re: 6 hours to change sides
« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2026, 09:47:55 AM »
Just start off with the axis versus allies map. Just try it out see how it goes.

By the way last night I was on. Well early in the morning. My country has six members, another country had five and another country had four in the e n y prevented me from flying a b-29. Lol. That's kind of ridiculous.

Like I said. It shouldn't be kicking in on such low numbers at all.


Another thing. Three people on our side rolled two bases in about 15 minutes. One just after they get the other. It probably should be a little more difficult to do that..

I understand people that like to bomb and take over bases. It doesn't matter if the map is empty , they can still do it Dave enjoy doing. I don't know how you get enjoyment out of that if there's no opposition at all but I'm sure they love it. Bombing strat and all that or whatever they do with nobody else on the map to oppose them. Lol.

I've never been into bombing or taking out tool sheds myself. So when I log on I look for wherever there's a fight going on and I head over that way.
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