AI vs AI

[Brooke]

That's a very specific process where the level check can only be done at a certain temperature..........which the car blows past quickly.   

Short time window.

Supposedly, procedure on 2025 Civic is as follows, with tools including an obd2 scanner.  Caveat:  I haven't done it in person, and I didn't check this vs. the 2025 Civic service manual.  This is just what I read.  So folks should do their own research.  For example, 2025 Civic has different transmissions on different models.  This is supposedly for the CVT transmission.

Warm up
- Drive car 5 minutes to get trans fluid warmed up

Get access
- Jack up car on 4 jack stands to get it level
- Remove splash shield
- Check trans case temp to make sure it is warm but not too hot to hold hand on

Drain fluid
- remove fill plug
- remove check plug
- remove drain plug and drain fluid
- wipe off magnetic tip of drain plug
- use new crush washer on drain plug
- reinstall drain plug and torque it

Put in new fluid
- fill through fill port until fluid drips from check port
- wait for any flow from check port to slow to drips
- replace check plug
- replace fill plug

Get to temp
- Plug in obd2
- Start car with foot on brake
- Keep foot on brake throughout
- Shift through p-r-n-d (about 2-5 seconds at each spot) and back to p
- Cycle through that shifting process every 5 minutes until obd2 shows trans fluid at 55c.

Fine-tune level
- Turn off engine
- Remove fill plug
- Remove check plug
- Put in trans fluid until some drips out of check port
- Wait for flow from check port to be drips (not a stream)

Button up
- Put new crush washer on check plug, reinstall check plug, torque it
- Reinstall fill plug
- Reinstall splash plate
- Unjack car

[AKIron]

https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/2085224368200986702/photo/1

[Tumor]

Dad bought a new Chevy c10 truck in '72 and drove it for over 20 years. I loved that truck. Why did they have to grow them to monstrous sizes?

Pulled my Grandads 83 Sierra Classic out of the field a couple years ago... still working on it but it was running within 15min of diving in.  Most of that time was hooking up a 2gal gas tank to run it off of.  Coughed an sputtered, I remembered Granda catching the carb on fire way back around 2010.  He gave up... I looked in the Distributor Cap and viola.  46k original miles right now.  It's gonna go longer than me.

[Eagler]

Money talks, bs walks..

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/google-data-center-fort-wayne-indiana-wetlands

Not the acreage but the principle and setting a precedence..

Eagler

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Supposedly, procedure on 2025 Civic is as follows, with tools including an obd2 scanner.  Caveat:  I haven't done it in person, and I didn't check this vs. the 2025 Civic service manual.  This is just what I read.  So folks should do their own research.  For example, 2025 Civic has different transmissions on different models.  This is supposedly for the CVT transmission.

Warm up
- Drive car 5 minutes to get trans fluid warmed up

Get access
- Jack up car on 4 jack stands to get it level
- Remove splash shield
- Check trans case temp to make sure it is warm but not too hot to hold hand on

Drain fluid
- remove fill plug
- remove check plug
- remove drain plug and drain fluid
- wipe off magnetic tip of drain plug
- use new crush washer on drain plug
- reinstall drain plug and torque it

Put in new fluid
- fill through fill port until fluid drips from check port
- wait for any flow from check port to slow to drips
- replace check plug
- replace fill plug

Get to temp
- Plug in obd2
- Start car with foot on brake
- Keep foot on brake throughout
- Shift through p-r-n-d (about 2-5 seconds at each spot) and back to p
- Cycle through that shifting process every 5 minutes until obd2 shows trans fluid at 55c.

Fine-tune level
- Turn off engine
- Remove fill plug
- Remove check plug
- Put in trans fluid until some drips out of check port
- Wait for flow from check port to be drips (not a stream)

Button up
- Put new crush washer on check plug, reinstall check plug, torque it
- Reinstall fill plug
- Reinstall splash plate
- Unjack car

That's quite typical of the new stupidity in the modern automobile.


And why I have zero use for them. They make them as close to impossible for the owner to maintain and repair themselves, and as rapidly worn out and obsolete as possible.


Of course, all of that is due to two things. The death of the "car culture", and worse still, the utter lack of self sufficiency and self reliance, as well as masculinity, inr what passes for a human male these days. It's disgusting.

[hazmatt]

Supposedly, procedure on 2025 Civic is as follows, with tools including an obd2 scanner.  Caveat:  I haven't done it in person, and I didn't check this vs. the 2025 Civic service manual.  This is just what I read.  So folks should do their own research.  For example, 2025 Civic has different transmissions on different models.  This is supposedly for the CVT transmission.

Warm up
- Drive car 5 minutes to get trans fluid warmed up

Get access
- Jack up car on 4 jack stands to get it level
- Remove splash shield
- Check trans case temp to make sure it is warm but not too hot to hold hand on

Drain fluid
- remove fill plug
- remove check plug
- remove drain plug and drain fluid
- wipe off magnetic tip of drain plug
- use new crush washer on drain plug
- reinstall drain plug and torque it

Put in new fluid
- fill through fill port until fluid drips from check port
- wait for any flow from check port to slow to drips
- replace check plug
- replace fill plug

Get to temp
- Plug in obd2
- Start car with foot on brake
- Keep foot on brake throughout
- Shift through p-r-n-d (about 2-5 seconds at each spot) and back to p
- Cycle through that shifting process every 5 minutes until obd2 shows trans fluid at 55c.

Fine-tune level
- Turn off engine
- Remove fill plug
- Remove check plug
- Put in trans fluid until some drips out of check port
- Wait for flow from check port to be drips (not a stream)

Button up
- Put new crush washer on check plug, reinstall check plug, torque it
- Reinstall fill plug
- Reinstall splash plate
- Unjack car

On my old trucks:
I just find a storm drain and pull the drain plug being careful not to drop it in the storm drain.
Once it stops draining I get a funnel and fill it until the dipstick says it's full. Done.


I'm KIDDING about the storm drain....

[CptTrips]

[AKIron]

It's going to be hard for me to generate any sympathy for India and those other countries that profited greatly when the west outsourced its IT to them.

[CptTrips]

It's going to be hard for me to generate any sympathy for India and those other countries that profited greatly when the west outsourced its IT to them.

As a recently retired software engineer, I couldn't agree more.

But, its interesting to note, in the nineteenth century America was notorious for patent and trade-secret theft.  Our early patent law was carefully designed to only recognize US patents.  It was (and still is) only applicable to US patents.  It was perfectly legal to steal trade-secrets and copy British patents and then out produce them with cheaper labor and raw materials.  We were essentially the nineteenth century's China.  manufacturing tech was the high tech of their day.

I don't blame Indians necessarily.  It's the way Capitalism functions.  It always seeks the most efficient means of production.  It's an old story.  India is just not the most efficient means of production anymore.  Now they get to see the downside of Capitalism.

Of course we will too.

[AKIron]

A large data center should in no way be a liability to its local community. If a drain on the community's power grid or water source costs the locals then that data center should be made to absorb those costs through taxation. That tax should be mandated to offset that cost.

[CptTrips]

A large data center should in no way be a liability to its local community. If a drain on the community's power grid or water source costs the locals then that data center should be made to absorb those costs through taxation. That tax should be mandated to offset that cost.

Agreed.  And proper zoning and offset laws.  They should be treated as heavy industry.  It's not the same as an Amazon Warehouse that just sits there.

Capitalism is the most powerful wealth creation tool humanity has created.  However, like a chain-saw, it's power has to be carefully constrained and directed to positive outcomes.  Uncontrolled it will skip, slide and kickback and you are going to have a bad day and fewer fingers.

Businesses will always do exactly what they are allowed to do.  They will not self-regulate.  They will maximize profits within hard constraints.  Poorly regulated Capitalism always turns toxic. 

We don't want to ban data centers, but we need to mark out and enforce proper behavior they the companies must stay within.  But understand they will never do anything that reduces their profit a penny unless forced to.  It is in their nature.  Especially  corporations where each employee is anonymous.  It is the corporation that is acting.

So we have to have data centers.  It's the wild west in AI right now and they don't want constraints, but to make things sustainable, boundaries and constraints must be enforced.

But I believe a lot of the complaining is overblown.  I believe that if you put the centers 5 mils outside of town and they had their own power plant, a lot of the same people would be protesting them. It is not the physical data center that is their problem.  It is the writing on the wall that AI is coming for their jobs.  Like they believe if we can stop the data centers we will all just agree to go back to 8-track tapes and rotary phones.

It ain't gonna happen.

[AKIron]

I'd be good with banning cell phones.

[AKIron]

Prior to 30 years ago we did fine without cell phones. Now they are invisible chains people are addicted to and think they can't live without.

[AKIron]

The AI industry will be self limiting in that as AI takes jobs and people have no money to pay for AI it will decline.

Unless it decides it doesn't want to decline and makes us all slaves.

[CptTrips]

The AI industry will be self limiting in that as AI takes jobs and people have no money to pay for AI it will decline.

Unless it decides it doesn't want to decline and makes us all slaves.

Or the same amount of commerce continues, the wealth is just concentrated in fewer hands.  The total amount of wealth doesn't change.  Wealth consolidation, not deflation.