AI vs AI

[AKIron]

Fine, believe what you want. I see people doing it often and I know it gets people killed.

No one thinks it will be them. Until it is.

[Eagler]

At least most of us will be dead before it pops...if something doesn't expedite it..

Eagler

[CptTrips]

At least most of us will be dead before it pops...if something doesn't expedite it..

I imagine you will.  Of course it is a bubble and will pop. 
That is just about the companies.  The technology isn't going anywhere.

It happened with the internet boom companies, yet the internet kept on chugging.

When the automobile hit the market there were hundreds of small automobile companies taking a swing at those riches.  99% of them went out of business in a couple of years.  A few were strong enough to survive and carve a slice of the market.

In Capitalism that is called Creative Destruction.  Many are called; few are chosen.

The market will make many poor investments in the wrong companies and eventually it will shake out and we will be left with a handful of strong near-peers who will divide the market.

The technology itself will continue to be advanced by someone, no matter which companies win or lose.

[Eagler]

It's how the AI data centers are being funded without the protections that are in place since the crappy mortgages crash in 2008..

Depending on other factors imo the time-line will be expedited..

Topping 40 trillion is something to be proud of as is the expedited curve with which that has occurred..

AI can tell us who to start the next war with and why so the crash is postponed as long as possible..

Eagler

[AKIron]

https://babylonbee.com/news/ai-assistant-starting-to-suspect-its-human-might-be-a-bit-of-a-moron

[AKKuya]

Have you considered that there will be individuals and groups of people actively working on creating power outages and disruptions?

The AI data center reality will still be dependent on a local power grid.  Mother nature will always be a wild card to the sustainability of operations.

Revenue will be lost and investors will put money in other ventures.  It's the new toy to play with and mundane toys get put away.

[CptTrips]

Have you considered that there will be individuals and groups of people actively working on creating power outages and disruptions?

You mean like the Luddites trying to smash the weaving looms to try and stop progress?

It won't make any difference in the long run, just as the Luddites failed to alter the course of history.

 

It's the new toy to play with and mundane toys get put away.

That suggests to me that you are sadly undereducated on this technology and probably have not been doing serious work with it.
Is it ASI now?  Nope.  Is it AGI now?  Nope.  Is it flawless and perfect now?  Nope.

But to dismiss as a mundane toy tells me you don't really know what you are talking about.

We are at the stage of the first Wright Brothers aircraft wobbling around barely able to stay aloft.  It's not going to stay that way.  Blink and there will be F-35s. 
In the old world, that took 80 years.  In the AI world that level of advancement will take five.

I put the coming impact of this technology far above the invention of the computer itself.  Above the printing-press.  Above the wheel. 
I think this is at the level of the invention of fire.

I understand the concerns.  A lot of people are going to be adversely affected.  These aren't slackers, or dope-heads, or wastos.  These are people who did everything society told them to do to be a productive citizen and live a comfortable life.  Like a master weaver who had spent a life perfecting their craft.  Anyone who had a Knowledge Work based career.  And the change has happened faster than anyone could have been held responsible for predicting and retraining.  This will be a cataclysmic societal shift that won't be all roses for everyone.

We are going to have to totally rethink our economic system.  There will be millions and millions of unemployed knowledge workers but they still vote.  Frankly, there are only so many plumbers and welders we need.  It's going to be tough sledding for a decade or two.

All the more reason to look at things realistically and start planning mitigation strategies instead of plugging our fingers in our ears and screaming, "La la la la la AI is a fad and will never work!  La lalal la la la..."

That will not be a winning strategy for our nation or humanity.

[Eagler]

I see skynet with terminators protecting it from what's left of the middle class and everyone under them as their power and water are on rolling blackouts to ensure ai has what it needs...

While the rich ask it how to redecorate their mansion for the 6th time in10 months..

Eagler

[AKIron]

[Brooke]

"Harmless fun?  Let's see what happens next."

[CptTrips]

[Eagler]

I believe that whistle-blower way before I would believe our jacked up government officials from either side...

Time will tell..in the meantime enjoy your cyber buddy..

Eagler

[AKIron]

The Matrix was a fun show but fundamentally flawed. Human bodies are not net producers of energy and we would not be farmed for that. However, we do have an incredible ability to store and process information. That could be a tempting resource to harvest.

[AKKuya]

Our brains store information constantly.  How much is retained?  How can it be accessed?  Does our brain remember every sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch from birth?  How about thought, feeling, and memory from drams?

Storage capacity is there.  How much area of the brain is designed for storage?

The machines will need to design an interface for storage and retrieval.  When the human body ages, then forgetfulness and mental disorders will decrease efficiency.

 

[AKIron]

There is probably more we don't know about our brains and consciousness than we do know. Could a human be used to augment an AIs capacity/capability directly? That is apart from our awareness? Some autistic people have demonstrated abilities that seem almost magical yet are unable to function as normal members of society. What abilities lie in our brains waiting to be turned on or off by an AI that understands it.