AI vs AI

[CptTrips]

Nice sound bite, but you didn't answer my questions.

[AKIron]

Here's the best answer to your questions.

What entities have murdered the most people in the history of mankind?

[CptTrips]

Here's the best answer to your questions.

What entities have murdered the most people in the history of mankind?

A question isn't an answer, it's a deflection.

[AKIron]

Okay, governments murdered millions of their own people. Maybe you think we are enlightened now and our government would only be benevolent. No way would those who have proven for decades that they are power hungry in the extreme resort to the murders of not so long ago. Yeah, right.

[AKIron]

Let's have our government develop and control AI. What could go wrong?

[CptTrips]

You still haven't answered.

Could a few of us as individuals have mounted D-Day, or did a effort of that scale and cost require a government to pull off?

[AKIron]

If not for trusted governments gone wild there would have been no need for d-day.

You seem eager to trust our government with providing jobs and developing AI. Why do you despise Russia? They and China gave collectivism a brutal run for decades before giving up on it.

[AKIron]

So far as our ventures into space it was a wild ride while it lasted. Unfortunately it was used primarily, if not exclusively, as a tool to defeat another government. Now an individual has picked up the challenge and will likely take us much further.

[CptTrips]

That is comfortable suburban armchair extremism.

You live in a nice neighborhood, patrolled by city police, making your coffee with municipal water, kept safe by a government run military waiting for your mail to be delivered to you by the Postal Service. 

Pack up your stuff and move to the Congo or Darfur of some other dystopia without a functioning government where you have no one to protect your property rights or roads to drive on or water to drink.  Where you are at the mercy of thugs and warlords and live there for a year and tell me about your anarchist utopia.  It won't be as pleasant as you think it is.  It's easy to talk that guff from the pleasant suburbs.

There are things we handle as individuals.
There are things we handle at the local community level.
There are things best left to the states.
And there are things of size and scale and risk that take a nation-state to address.
Somethings might even take a multi-national approach to solve.

I don't want to live in a Mad-Max lawless dystopia any more than I would want to live in the Soviet Union.

Extremism at either end is always the wrong answer.  Real life involves complex and imperfect compromises.   There are never any easy answers, only trade-offs.
A certain level of government is necessary to maintain the comfortable life we enjoy.

[AKIron]

I'm not asking the government to step in and take charge of anything. Seems you are. It has already proven it needs to be reined in, not given more.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

[CptTrips]

[Eagler]

Lockheed Martin was working on autonomous guidance systems a decade ago..and it was on delivery systems much larger than drones..

AI has been around for a long time, it's declassified scraps have finally fallen into the general public..

Eagler

[AKIron]

I feel so much better about all the data centers now.

[icepac]

I remember self driven cars being tested just up chain bridge road next to the CIA headquarters in the late 1980s and 1990s.