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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2026, 08:27:13 AM »
Where are these plane kill stats?
Have you flown the D9 for any length of time?
The plane is flown as designed in BnZ
That said, I don’t run, If I did my score would be higher. I’ll TnB, most know that. Thats not what it was designed for. Ya want D9 flown as TnB for an easier kill? That would not be smart D9 pilot.

We have this repeat convo often.
Many planes whup a D9 and can catch it.
During ENY the D9 is not available

Why is it 109 jockys want every late model plane perked.
Dumb the game down around the 109s?
Some talk like the 109 is a tricycle. Its a beast. So much so many countries tried to design a plane to beat it. You’re not flying a garbage plane. Ya just want easier kills in a 109.

I’m only new to you, no offense, seriously, but after 37yrs you’re new to me. I’m not ignorant to plane abilities. If I wanted an uber plane it would be Spits, NIK, 51, 47, LA, Yak, Typh/Temp, 38 All of which can B slap a D9. D9 is not top self uber. It may b high, but again the planes I just mentioned smack it around.

Top kills in a chart are deceiving, them most flown plane can end up there. Just like scores. Its not always ability it can be how much time one puts in. Not the same monkey. Stats all depend on how you squint your eyes.

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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2026, 08:34:18 AM »
I’m only new to you, no offense, seriously, but after 37yrs you’re new to me.
Your ability to take personal offense to just about anything is amazing.

Violator is one of the best sticks in the game. I'd trust his opinion on the subject matter.
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2026, 08:54:37 AM »
Your ability to take personal offense to just about anything is amazing.

Violator is one of the best sticks in the game. I'd trust his opinion on the subject matter.

I didn’t take anything personal. Period

Maybe you read it wrong with bias

Things I take personal were meant to be personal. This was not one of them.

You’re nit always right Spikes

The cliques on this board are very exclusive and biased bs. Anyone not a part of the “club” are stupid, anyone who is part of it is always right 100% It’s not inclusive, I never got my union card to be in it. Its not what you know its who one is
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2026, 09:08:55 AM »
Maybe you read it wrong with bias

The way I read it was "I don't know who you are so I'm dismissing your opinion". I'm not sure how else someone would take "you're new to me" as a comment.

You’re nit always right Spikes

Where did I claim to be?  :headscratch:

The cliques on this board are very exclusive and biased bs. Anyone not a part of the “club” are stupid

I didn't know I was part of a club. How wonderful!
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2026, 09:15:15 AM »
Ya know what, elitist players talk to me like I’m brain dead new. Therefire I take it as I’m new and ignorant

I will say this. I’m one foot in one foot out because of the elitist who want to push me out if the game and bbs. I am still here out of spite.
When they get off my back I’m likely gone. It makes me sick
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2026, 09:27:33 AM »
Since my return i have not been able to post one single opinion or post without sone self proclaimed elitist know it all crawling up my butt. Not once. It been a fin nightmare with these gods
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2026, 09:31:56 AM »
BTW I like Violatir and you
I just have my own opinion, god forbid
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2026, 11:31:46 AM »
Animl, Im not trying to dismiss you or anything, Im iust providing my argument on why I do think its a top plane especially for being unperked. I am a #s guy. I stare and #s and excel spreadsheets every day until im crosseyed (fun I know) but I have somewhat of a inclination on visualizing #s and their metrics. You can check all of the plane stats by player and plane, just check the score stats by pilot, plane, or squad. You can see the top plane kills, top plane K/D, top killers in those planes, and top K/D in those planes once the tour is over. This gives me a lot of understanding of trends in the game and how pilots play the game from a #s perspective and how they can manipulate those #s by flying certain planes.

I know you have 37 years in the game but you play to have a lot more fun than I do. Im extremely competitive and cant help it. Its a gift and a curse. That means from day 1 of starting AH, I wanted to learn how to be the best because air combat was one of my favorite things on the planet. Learning the Art of ACM in every plane was the #1 goal for me. Yes, Im a 109 jocky   :D but I fly so many other planes, just check the score stats. I do think the K4 is a top plane but its much harder to secure kills. If it wasn't it would simply get more kills every month than the 190. The 109s actually provide the arena with a much better fight. The 190s are designed in a way that they should only fight if absolutely needed and normally most planes can out turn it. That makes the plane overall more boring to actually fight against as it must fly straight to survive and 95% of players dont know defensive techniques to counterpunch being BnZed for 5 minutes by an E demon. Many planes can still outurn a K4. A K4 cannot dive past 475, and its a cage thats hard to see out of which makes aiming with 65 30s very tough. I love the K4s because of their fighting style and you really have to get down n dirty to get most of the kills if you are being jumped by higher planes. I still dont get 25% of the kills I should because of the damn 30 missing.

Im not saying you that you dont fight. I know you like to try to fight it out, but you are flying a plane thats designed to fly straight most of the time. Its designed to be fast and escape fights. Its not designed to have fights with another stick in hopes you can outurn them. Thats why its a more boring plane for many to fight against overall than a 109k. Its nothing about you, Im talking about from an overall perspective of the plane and why so many choose to fly it making it one of the games top killers. Believe me, when I first started the MA I flew the 190D because it was fast, had cannons, and made the far flights feel not so far, but for me, I realized that the style of gameplay was very boring to me since I couldn't turn fight against the great sticks of the time with it so I learned the 109s and many other planes like the F4U so I could have the best of both worlds. The game is a lot more fun when everyone is  :joystick: rather than just chasing and dodging.  :aok

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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2026, 12:40:01 PM »
I started the D9 because it was the only plane that I could reliably kill P51s with and at the time the "Runstang" seemed to be trending. I could run them down and if they did fight I could beat most of them as long as I fought them in the vertical. Other then that I preferred the F4U as to me  it's the jack of all trades and can float with the flaps out. When I played the 109 I usually flew the G14 because I couldn't hit anything with the tator launcher. In the D9 the only plane I actually struggled against was the K4. I never did figure out a way to bet it reliably. Usually I'd go scissors and they'd go helicopter lol.

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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2026, 01:07:47 PM »
This is why we can’t have nice things.
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2026, 01:45:50 PM »
Animl, Im not trying to dismiss you or anything, Im iust providing my argument on why I do think its a top plane especially for being unperked. I am a #s guy. I stare and #s and excel spreadsheets every day until im crosseyed (fun I know) but I have somewhat of a inclination on visualizing #s and their metrics. You can check all of the plane stats by player and plane, just check the score stats by pilot, plane, or squad. You can see the top plane kills, top plane K/D, top killers in those planes, and top K/D in those planes once the tour is over. This gives me a lot of understanding of trends in the game and how pilots play the game from a #s perspective and how they can manipulate those #s by flying certain planes.

I know you have 37 years in the game but you play to have a lot more fun than I do. Im extremely competitive and cant help it. Its a gift and a curse. That means from day 1 of starting AH, I wanted to learn how to be the best because air combat was one of my favorite things on the planet. Learning the Art of ACM in every plane was the #1 goal for me. Yes, Im a 109 jocky   :D but I fly so many other planes, just check the score stats. I do think the K4 is a top plane but its much harder to secure kills. If it wasn't it would simply get more kills every month than the 190. The 109s actually provide the arena with a much better fight. The 190s are designed in a way that they should only fight if absolutely needed and normally most planes can out turn it. That makes the plane overall more boring to actually fight against as it must fly straight to survive and 95% of players dont know defensive techniques to counterpunch being BnZed for 5 minutes by an E demon. Many planes can still outurn a K4. A K4 cannot dive past 475, and its a cage thats hard to see out of which makes aiming with 65 30s very tough. I love the K4s because of their fighting style and you really have to get down n dirty to get most of the kills if you are being jumped by higher planes. I still dont get 25% of the kills I should because of the damn 30 missing.

Im not saying you that you dont fight. I know you like to try to fight it out, but you are flying a plane thats designed to fly straight most of the time. Its designed to be fast and escape fights. Its not designed to have fights with another stick in hopes you can outurn them. Thats why its a more boring plane for many to fight against overall than a 109k. Its nothing about you, Im talking about from an overall perspective of the plane and why so many choose to fly it making it one of the games top killers. Believe me, when I first started the MA I flew the 190D because it was fast, had cannons, and made the far flights feel not so far, but for me, I realized that the style of gameplay was very boring to me since I couldn't turn fight against the great sticks of the time with it so I learned the 109s and many other planes like the F4U so I could have the best of both worlds. The game is a lot more fun when everyone is  :joystick: rather than just chasing and dodging.  :aok


Violator, I understand your position. I’m not knocking it.  But I fly the D9 exclusively, it has draw backs. That’s all. It may fit in an uber category, but it’s not as uber as projected

There are some good people here, over-shadowed by complete protected derelicts because yrs ago they did something but spit on it since.

I can’t even joke on the bbs without some troubled little twit creating a psssing contest.

Hell I thought after what I’ve been through I might be the troubled one, these “guys” make me feel like I survived with epic success.

I’m not kidding, its not a rage quit, its a prolonged studied thought. Look in a nut shell, my middle finger isn’t big enough for bbs. Maybe some mentally disturbed grown nan who hasn’t matured in 40 yrs can figure it out.

It’s not this thread at all. Been talking to others about it. There is a sickness here. Hell I even offend some because I try tech help, that Fin ego crap. Not respected at all, looked diwn on here and game. F him. I’m not part of their elitist mentality.

Its not the 1st, its the 1001st. I may be around bbs, May not.
The respect I HAD for some found the bottom of the barrel.

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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2026, 01:51:50 PM »
This is why we can’t have nice things.

There's always going to be noise.  Don't sweat the petty things.  Also, don't pet the sweaty things.

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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2026, 01:57:59 PM »
Well, I at least got to see Spikes avatar again, thats a plus.  :rock
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2026, 02:05:42 PM »
Literally tried to create a thread to celebrate the game but some of you just can’t help yourself
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Re: Does Anyone Like Anything?
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2026, 02:06:37 PM »
There's always going to be noise.  Don't sweat the petty things.  Also, don't pet the sweaty things.

Wiley.

lol no problem there for me!
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