I Hope to do a release Tusday.

[JimmyD3]

I have a feeling, there are more than a few things that might be open for discussion now.

Like the old man said, Never say never.

[nrshida]

The texture-loading crash is gone.

[Animl-AW]

I think vet players are going to need to compromise on dar with new players.

Ya can’t just keep making changes geared only towards vets, if you want more new players to hang around. They already have a steep learning curve. That might be dot dar.

[-gg-]

My biggest gripe is ENY, and it's not for any reason that most people assume.

I'm not a complainer. I don't cry about stuff. But I want fairness and dislike unfairness.

To me it's unfair that people who pay the same amount of money for the game have to sacrifice some of their game experience for the sake of others having a better game experience. That's an uneven playing field and it's at my expense.

I know a lot of people feel exactly the same way. People in my squad. Competitive people who are good at flying any plane get worn out and log off even for days at a time because e n y is consistently taking away the planes that they compete against other top players who have the best rides.

Fundamentally unfair to paying customers to make a paying customer sacrifice their game experience for the sake of someone else having a better game experience.

I don't care what the numbers are.

ENY simply does not work at these low numbers. Every single night I log on to the game we have eny all night long mostly. And we are rarely on the side that has Superior numbers in any fight. I find local fights that are not outnumbered and I'm often on the outnumbered side being forced to fly planes that are inferior to the other side who has better pilots. Much better pilots that I can even hope to compete with to begin with and I'm stuck flying a crap plane against them.

Think about that. It's not fair to people.


I wanted to add....  Last night for instance. Country numbers were 5, 5 and 6.  one of the countries
Had only one person in flight. Just super tired of this ENY being in effect every single time I play the game.

[CptTrips]

My biggest Drive is ENY, and it's not for any reason that most people assume.

Not taking a stand either way, just curious.

Would you accept enforced team balancing if it made ENY go away?

I've played lots of games that enforced balancing.  It can be a pain.  ENY can be a pain.

Which would hurt more?

[-gg-]

No. I don't like any manipulation of player behavior. Just deal with what the game is. There's going to be times when you're outnumbered and it's going to be times when you're on the outnumbered side. People make their own decisions about what they want to do. I don't want to be forced to do anything like that. I don't like any of that.

I view this as a game of skill. Really when you fight somebody in this game, it's 100% skill-based. I don't like my tools being taken away from me or being forced to use crappier equipment to go up against people who are superior to me anyway.

This game is filled with people who are highly skilled. They don't need crutches or be forced to do anything. And that goes for new players as well. They're not little babies that need to be catered to. They can come in and learn the game .

People help new players. It's natural to want to help new players. We had a new guy on last night that we invited to our squad channel and he was already doing pretty well. He came from war thunder. He wasn't complaining about anything

[hitech]

No. I don't like any manipulation of player behavior. Just deal with what the game is. There's going to be times when you're outnumbered and it's going to be times when you're on the outnumbered side. People make their own decisions about what they want to do. I don't want to be forced to do anything like that. I don't like any of that.

I view this as a game of skill. Really when you fight somebody in this game, it's 100% skill-based. I don't like my tools being taken away from me or being forced to use crappier equipment to go up against people who are superior to me anyway.

This game is filled with people who are highly skilled. They don't need crutches or be forced to do anything. And that goes for new players as well. They're not little babies that need to be catered to. They can come in and learn the game .

People help new players. It's natural to want to help new players. We had a new guy on last night that we invited to our squad channel and he was already doing pretty well. He came from war thunder. He wasn't complaining about anything

I understand that ENY is frustrating when it limits the aircraft you want to fly, but it’s important to recognize that ENY does not activate merely because one country has one more player. Thresholds already have to be reached before it takes effect.

ENY also isn’t intended to cater to inexperienced players or compensate for differences in individual skill. It addresses country-level numerical imbalance. Without it, the country with more players would have both the numbers advantage and unrestricted access to the strongest aircraft, leaving the smaller countries to absorb the entire disadvantage.

Local fights won’t always match the overall country totals, but ENY cannot realistically evaluate every individual engagement. Players can move between fields and fights at any time, so the system has to use overall country strength as a consistent measurement.

Paying the same subscription price means everyone plays under the same rules; it doesn’t mean every aircraft must remain available under every arena condition. ENY applies to every country when it crosses the same thresholds, and players still decide which country to fly for.

The low-population example may justify reviewing whether the existing thresholds are calibrated correctly, but it doesn’t show that ENY itself is fundamentally unfair or ineffective. That is a much narrower and more constructive question than eliminating population balancing altogether.

[Eagler]

Have you given any thought to lowering the switch side time limits HT?

Eagler

[-gg-]

Thank you for replying Dale. I do understand that the game is the same for everybody, so in that sense it's fair. But the fundamental part of the unfairness is that you can't take equal planes up against other people unless you switch sides or something. And then I really don't want the advantage the other way around either.. do you know what I mean?

Like I don't want to be in a superior plane that is against somebody who has crappy planes either.

So thanks for your reply!

[Brooke]

I think it is good to put in things that encourage play balance.

ENY is one way.

Another would be (and not sure if this is already done) you always can switch to a side that is outnumbered (no time restriction on that ever).

One thing to keep in mind with regard to human psychology:  people are happier with positive reinforcement than negative reinforcement.  Because they perceive positive reinforcement as getting something (which makes them happy, and they see it as their choice to get it) rather than having something taken from them (which they feel is forced on them, makes them angry and potentially log off).

Are there more things people on an overpowered side could gain?  Less perk cost per plane/vehicle.  Accumulate  perks quicker?  A little discount on that month's AH fee?  Some award thing if they fly on outnumbered side enough?

[LilMak]

I think vet players are going to need to compromise on dar with new players.

Ya can’t just keep making changes geared only towards vets, if you want more new players to hang around. They already have a steep learning curve. That might be dot dar.

I really don’t think eliminating AWACS (in flight) is geared towards vets or new players. It’s geared towards bringing balance back to the game that was lost with the advent of AWACS. “Dot dar” implies a return to the old radar where all contacts were the same (fighters/bombers) without icons or direction of flight. I’m not asking for that either. Heck, I’m not even asking that AWACS be completely eliminated (use it in the tower). I’m asking that players don’t have access to an advantage in flight that is even more detrimental to noobs than it is to vets. The “fog” that used to exist is essentially gone. A new player that may have had some luck/success sneaking up on a vet is essentially eliminated. A new player isn’t going to be making their first flights bringing up the map every 10 seconds (or flying with it open because it’s better than looking out the window) to find contacts. It’s also not going to help him that any target he finds by himself will automatically pop up a vet’s map. Right now vets are already clobbering vets simply because having more planes in the local area gives you more radar coverage and therefore wider SA than an outnumbered opponent. Which, in and of itself, causes players to seek out green darbars and avoid red ones. Some poor noob isn’t being helped along if his location is fed to every pilot in the sky. Nor is he going to feel great if he’s part of a horde and 5 vets are pouncing the same target he is because he doesn’t even understand the exploit.

[CptTrips]

One thing to keep in mind with regard to human psychology:  people are happier with positive reinforcement than negative reinforcement. 

Exactly.

Pull is always better than push.

Maybe instead of reducing high side options, you reduce the perk costs to low side.

Free Me-262's for everyone on the low side is one way to balance. 

[nrshida]

The texture-loading crash is gone.

No it's just taking longer:-

Texture Creation Error=8876086C Name RTF=00006400 Format=0000004b
Texture Creation Error=8876086C Name RTF=00006400 Format=0000004b
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Then have to reset computer

[Brooke]

Exactly.

Pull is always better than push.

Maybe instead of reducing high side options, you reduce the perk costs to low side.

Free Me-262's for everyone on the low side is one way to balance. 

Jets are the one thing I'd be careful of adding more.  To me, jets ruin the game play.

[Animl-AW]

No it's just taking longer:-

Texture Creation Error=8876086C Name RTF=00006400 Format=0000004b
Texture Creation Error=8876086C Name RTF=00006400 Format=0000004b
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Then have to reset computer

I assume you are using DX9?

I only see this in DX9, never in DX11.
DX11 is working fine now. If you’re using DX9 and can switch to DX11 you might consider doing that.