AFK ENY - unintended consequences: fix = timer change

[Dinan]

It needs to be set at a time where it's not tactically impactful; 15mins is still a bit borderline, imo. 

I also hope it can be flagged for not in-flight players only?

imo.. If the game was somehow just tailored for you,  there would be only you on, just sitting in the tower as usual. 

[-gg-]

Another long night last night... squad night for LCA Raiders

ENY held steady at over 26 and we were NOT outnumbering anyone on the map. We could not capture a base and were not able to defend our bases.

But the point is that some of of were IRATE on vox over the unfairness of ENY. One guy logged on, saw ENY and just logged right back off.

I don't care what anyone says .... this this needs to be addressed. The theme on vox was that we are paying customers and we pay for OUR time and enjoyment of the game, not someone elses game enjoyment at OUR expense and players.

It pisses players off, makes them log off and is not fair

Fix it. Get rid of it

[-gg-]

The joke on our squad vox was " but ENY makes the game fun for everybody!"

It's BS to have ENY to begin with, but to be stuck at over 26 for hours. No fun. Not fair.

[The Fugitive]

Another long night last night... squad night for LCA Raiders

ENY held steady at over 26 and we were NOT outnumbering anyone on the map. We could not capture a base and were not able to defend our bases.

But the point is that some of of were IRATE on vox over the unfairness of ENY. One guy logged on, saw ENY and just logged right back off.

I don't care what anyone says .... this this needs to be addressed. The theme on vox was that we are paying customers and we pay for OUR time and enjoyment of the game, not someone elses game enjoyment at OUR expense and players.

It pisses players off, makes them log off and is not fair

Fix it. Get rid of it

Both of these statements cant be true.

What were the population numbers?

[Dadtallica]

I got my butt handed to me twice last night by a P-51B… ENY isn’t a problem.

Some of you need to go touch grass.

[Animl-AW]

Everyone has their whine. You ain’t any different

[GOODBYE]

ENY literally only goes up when you outnumber the lowest country lmao

[Animl-AW]

I wonder if there is a convo on bbs that didn’t have a whine and a troll in it.

[-gg-]

ENY literally only goes up when you outnumber the lowest country lmao

That does not translate to what is going on on the actual area of the map that we were on..


We were split up actually not as one mob. So you have a bunch of bases on a map right? In a big area right? Just because overall the team that you're on has more numbers than the other side doesn't mean that in a local area where the fight is going on that the numbers are all going to be in that local area. Do you not understand this?

[-gg-]

Also, the numbers are very small. There's not a lot of people on and you're getting slammed with this disadvantage when the other side maybe only has a couple less people overall over the entire map. Or maybe the other team is working with the other side that's low numbers. It doesn't translate into what's going on in the fight that you're in on the map.


And when you're paying $15 a month to play a game and enjoy the game and you can't fly a large portion of the plans that everybody else on the same map is flying against you and shooting you down constantly, do you think that's fair? Do you think that's fun for the game and for the players paying to play it? I don't.

And I don't care how much or how often anybody says this is a wine. It's a legitimate concern. The game is not fun when that toejam kicks in.

[-gg-]

One last point. I said it before. But I am paying the same as anyone else to play the game. If I'm outnumber I don't care. I'm not purposely trying to be on a side that has more numbers. But I want to be able to take any plane that any other person is taking in the game that's paying to play the same game.

So people say yeah you're trying to balance the numbers and make it fair for the other side that's got four less players than our side? So I'm screwed out of an hour's worth of enjoyment so that they can have enjoyment in the game?

Why don't you just let the numbers be the natural cause for any gameplay issues and not an artificial penalty for some somebody just because they happen to be on the side that has four more guys than another side has.

It feels wrong the way this works. Penalized. You know if I'm on a side that's outnumbered I don't feel penalized by the game I just feel like that's the unfortunate circumstance at the moment and it will change. I don't like it being the game punishing me and trying to manipulate me.

[~ZoSo~]

I got my butt handed to me twice last night by a P-51B… ENY isn’t a problem.

Some of you need to go touch grass.

ENY is a problem.

Example.

Knights have 13 players in the air.

Bishops have 12 players in the air.

Rooks have 10 players in the air.

The Bishops and the Rooks are not fighting each other as usual.

I can go into more detail if you like. ?

Your skill level is irrelevant.

[caldera]

[-gg-]

I don't care what anybody says about the "whines" having all been heard before. I'm playing a game and I'm a customer of the game and I have a legitimate gripe about it and so do a lot of people that I fly with

I'll give you an example just from last night. We had 26.7 en y or something like that for hours. At one point there was 14 of Us online from our squad and we never once could get more than four or five of us together at one time. Some were going off on their own fighting the bishops others are fighting the rooks. At no time was I ever in any kind of a fight on the map where we were outnumbering the people we were fighting.


So you also have an example of maybe the side that I was on had more numbers or almost equal numbers to say the bishops but then maybe the rooks had a lot less players. But we're not even fighting the rooks.

Yeah, so maybe the bishops had some e and y as well but I don't give one toejam about what anyone else is having to deal with because it's only affecting me as a player. The eny is affecting what planes we could take and what I can take. And there was a lot of planes off the table last night for a long time.

It was pissing a lot of us off. It pisses me off and it happens every night.

It's not fair and I can voice my concern as a customer. And I don't know where else to do it. So I'll just do it here whenever it happens I'll just come here and I'll squeak and squeak and squeak and squeak about it.


It's a problem. Especially when the numbers are so low it's a big problem. I hope it gets dealt with because it's sickening to deal with this

[-gg-]

And just in case you don't get it. I'm a player I'm not a team. When I log in I'm playing as a player. An individual player who's being punished just because the side that I happen to be on has more numbers by a few players than anyone else. That's not my problem. And it's not my fault either.