Collision Model Change

[Animl-AW]

I think technically, those would be Masochists not Sadists.  Not to say there aren't also Sadists as well.   

You love projecting yourself, even in your sig, all projection

Yall should get a load of this sniveling
Lord of lords on DCS boards. He’s everything he projects on me

I have experience, he doesn’t, thats intimidating to this clown.

IRONICALLY not one word about the possible solution I posted. All ranting frithing at the mouth iver who posted it snd using AI.

Yet, Mr. Projector can barely answer a question without AI
Dadtillica used AI to “solve the stutter issue” that didn’t solve it, but sure was proud of it.
The kast update was powered by AI

Yall made comments about thats how it works without ever seeing the existing code at all.

These are replies of the self-absorbed addicted to conflict. Thete is not one thing normal about most here. They are a group of narcissist ego mongers, CotTrippy topping the charts.

Ya, he’s a self-absorbed PITA in DCS too. He’s afraid of people wiyh actual experience is a threat to their inflated egos.

[Animl-AW]

TequilaChaser
"...and as for Animal of the FDB "Animal" and Animl from AirWarrior

if I am not mistaken here is a link to Animl's  Help site, although it has been awhile since it has been updated:
http://www.icongrp.com/~stagemon/ah/  ( he used to host a very helpful Air Warrior Tech page, named "Air Warrior Tech Hangar" )

Lew ( Silat ), Otto,  Animl and others were on the Tech Team ffrom AW thru AWMV

my reference to his helping the community was from his volunteered offerings of  helping others setting up and diagnosing problems with Game Play, as well as assisting and being a GA, and helping as he mentioned with upgrading the damage models when AW2/AW3  did away with the "Hit Bubble"  in FR arenas mainly and testing the new damage model and correcting number of hits from differing types of gun platforms/planes etc..

Why I am posting this stuff, really is no need......... just to show he is not a Troll or shades account

below is from my old Air Warrior personnnel spreadsheets from Admin  listing AW personnel info and current privs, handles, ID's etc.... ( DmdRodan was head of Admin for AW Personnnel , back when I was Training Officer/Manager  for new Trainers and the Mentor OIC for all new Vol Staff that was invited to go thru training to become AW assistants / Tech Reps / Trainers / etc.......

( I purposely have not included some info categorys )

FIRST NAME   J**   
LAST NAME   C***i*g
Address   City   State   ZIP   ****  **** ******   Dyer   IN   46311   USA
Country   Phone #       2**-8**-**35
E-MAIL             stagemon@mail.icongrp.com
Work CPID   Animl   awar_anim
Work Username   Animl   awar_anim
Play CPID     Anim   stagemon
Play Username   Anim   stagemon
AW3ME Work CPID     Animl     
AW3ME Play CPID      stagemon
AIM    EAGuruAniml
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Yahoo Messenger   
NDA Signed   
EACampus Completed   
OH Requested   
Staff NG Access    8/7/2000
Aegis Access      7/27/2000
Set Up              10/14/00   
Sent to Mentoring   N/A   Scheduled?   N/A
Start Date    N/A
NG Access Terminated?   
Title/Function       Tech Rep
AW3 Mojos      Ann bellybutton Pag
AW3ME Mojos    Ann bellybutton Pag
Notes
« Last Edit: June 08, 2008, 05:34:22 PM by TequilaChaser »

That was my actual personal project granted to me by the suits. Grizzly and others helped me test it for many many hours to get it right.

[haggerty]

IRONICALLY not one word about the possible solution I posted. All ranting frithing at the mouth iver who posted it snd using AI.

Quote from: hitech on August 18, 2017, 08:55:33 AM
I only thought of that 25 years ago.
What your solution does 2 things bad for game play. And one annoying thing.

First it allows an attacker from the rear to be able to flying right threw another plane while shooting with out having to worry about a collision.

2nd it penalizes some one on a head on from pulling up and not colliding , because it allows the other guy to continue shooting and fly right threw the other plane.

And now because no damage can happen until the host receives and re transmits the collision, there would be a very noticeable lag between the visual collision and taking damage.

HiTech


There is nothing wrong with the collision model. What you must accept is that the other person did not collide with you.

So you are either asking
A. You intentionally avoid a head on collision, the other plane intentionally rams the plane he sees. And the YOU did even though you missed him.
or
B. You are in a bomber, a fighter dives in guns blazing and continues shooting as he flies right thew you.

Both of these option have far more detrimental effects to game play then the current choice.

HiTech

Consider how much you would like flying in a head on ,missing the other plane by 100 feet, and then being destroyed do to a collision.

HiTech

I still wonder if you understand the system.
Your statement above still has the thought process "WE" collide. Because it should be stated I collide not WE.

It is not only possible but likely probable that 90% of collisions are the the persons who was damaged in a collision fault.

HiTech

I know how the system works, I know how a collision can be caused in controlled circumstance.  I also know that it is completely irrelevant to game play. But the fact that you COULD cause one is not really the issue.

Do you really think that people flying around trying to cause a collision is a problem in the main arena?

Also discussing the pros and cons, is an impossibility with some one until they understand how the system works.

I am one of the few people who flown all available options regarding collisions with 1 acceptation (no collision, 1 person collides both damaged, 1 person collides no damage, 1 person collides the other one damaged, and also damage only if both collide) I havn't done the 1 person collides only other takes damage)

And if you havn't flown with no collisions and found out how flying threw people completely changes the fight, then it is hard to describe.

1. Bomber attacks are high attacks flying directly threw the bomber.
2. Head on guns blazing fly threw become the norm.

HiTech

No one said collisions can not be applied equitably. Right now is the most equitable way I can think of. If YOU collide with an enemy plane, YOU take damage. If ANYONE collides with an enemy  plane they take damage. 100% equitable, everyone has the same rules regardless of lag.

HiTech

I have no plans to change anything.

HiTech

[haggerty]

I think most of your problem with the collision model is that you HO RAM so much and other people move to avoid.  You dont see the avoid on their part because of lag and you keep flying through their plane.  Only you take damage because they avoided the plane on their end.   To abuse the people you are HOing because you fly through their plane is not good practice.  Like HiTech said, it punishes the player trying to avoid.

[CptTrips]

I think most of your problem with the collision model is that you HO RAM so much and other people move to avoid.  You dont see the avoid on their part because of lag and you keep flying through their plane.  Only you take damage because they avoided the plane on their end.   To abuse the people you are HOing because you fly through their plane is not good practice.  Like HiTech said, it punishes the player trying to avoid.

It is not only possible but likely probable that 90% of collisions are the the persons who was damaged in a collision fault.

HiTech

The corollary being they are also the most likely to complain about the model when they didn't get what they wanted out of their ram.

At least Toasted had the grace to just admit it openly.

[Animl-AW]

I think most of your problem with the collision model is that you HO RAM so much and other people move to avoid.  You dont see the avoid on their part because of lag and you keep flying through their plane.  Only you take damage because they avoided the plane on their end.   To abuse the people you are HOing because you fly through their plane is not good practice.  Like HiTech said, it punishes the player trying to avoid.

I HO HOers. Don’t like it, don’t put yourself at my 12 oclock. I’m
Not so worried about score that I won’t get in the mood to play chicken with HOers. You are an HOer because you game the point system. Read your own prior post here.

You have a problem staying within the truth. You are in ego protection mode. And when you HO me with your typh you freakout as if I’m going to tell everyone, so you attack me on 200 fir cover.

I owe you no explnation of what I do when.

Why are you talking to me? Don’t dump your drama on me.

[Animl-AW]

>>IMO<< Fault should not matter in the collision damage. If I ram a car we both still have visible damage.

Fault = - points
Collision = mutual damage

Patronize any harder and you’ll go blind
I still remember when you bad mouthed him

Edit: My entire point is one takes damage is not like RL, kind of an immersion killer. I was looking for that bridge that made it like RL. The above text/code seems to seek that too. Dd anyone actually read and understand it. We do not have mutual damage. The masses tend to want mutual damage. They are not seeing that

[CptTrips]

I still think it is a non issue. And your trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

You have shown that you could not constantly do it. Plus the fact it really is  would not be the first choice as a method of attack.

I have no plans to change anything.

HiTech

[haggerty]

I HO HOers. Don’t like it, don’t put yourself at my 12 oclock. I’m
Not so worried about score that I won’t get in the mood to play chicken with HOers. You are an HOer because you game the point system. Read your own prior post here.

You have a problem staying within the truth. You are in ego protection mode. And when you HO me with your typh you freakout as if I’m going to tell everyone, so you attack me on 200 fir cover.

I owe you no explnation of what I do when.

Why are you talking to me? Don’t dump your drama on me.

For.having the reputation as the games most prolific HOer im still so surprised you attack it so much.  Its not bad to HO, but for it to be the first move from the plane with advantage is odd. 
You say you only HO people that point their nose at you, what do you expect the people you are diving on to do, just let you have a free pass?  If they dont point their nose at you, you continue heading straight at them firing away until they blow up or you ram them.  In all of my videos of you, you never do any acm at all, just miss your pass and die, or get out HO'd by the defender.
How can you believe that HOing gives a good score when yours is so terrible?

[Animl-AW]

For.having the reputation as the games most prolific HOer im still so surprised you attack it so much.  Its not bad to HO, but for it to be the first move from the plane with advantage is odd. 
You say you only HO people that point their nose at you, what do you expect the people you are diving on to do, just let you have a free pass?  If they dont point their nose at you, you continue heading straight at them firing away until they blow up or you ram them.  In all of my videos of you, you never do any acm at all, just miss your pass and die, or get out HO'd by the defender.
How can you believe that HOing gives a good score when yours is so terrible?

You over-made your POV, move along.

[haggerty]

You have a problem staying within the truth. You are in ego protection mode. And when you HO me with your typh you freakout as if I’m going to tell everyone, so you attack me on 200 fir cover.

I dont think you understand everyone here knows your playstyle, to always claim that we are lying will never fool anyone.  You can tell people I HO all you want, why would that freak me out?  I openly defend HOing, its a valid strategy when you are defensive or outnumbered.

[Animl-AW]

Bzzt I DID NOT MAJE A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLE HILL
I simply posted in the wish list. The replies turned it i to the mountain.

It’s not rocket scoence when you look at the names and replies of the replies what they are hete to do, what the slime bucket always do. Turn a simple thing into a drama fest. I only replied to the trolls you kniw are trolls.

I stand by my words


Sit down tripanoid. Get help

[Animl-AW]

NO ONE WAS REQUIRED TO REPLY TO THIS THREAD
like most wishlist items. Like the model, it was a choice. Not a restriction

It could gave been settled in ine reply

[CptTrips]

Request Denied

[Animl-AW]

Request Denied

Good, I’ll live rent free in your pin head longer. Keep trying cameltoe