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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #165 on: October 08, 2026, 11:08:22 AM »
Don’t ask the obvious.

Somewhere the guy still has an attachment and enjoys the community. But that group targets specific people and troll for flame threads. They do harass specific players they see as a threat to former players controlling bbs. They have no stake in he game, they don’t care what they cause. Count in one thing, they don’t act anywhere near troll fest in their own game dcs. They would be permabanned right quick. This is where they act up, they don’t care if they chase players out, they prefer when hey quit here dcs gains a seasoned pilot, they hope. So they think they gain from creating dramafest here

There is no more permabanning here. You prove that over and over.
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #166 on: October 08, 2026, 11:20:10 AM »
There is no more permabanning here. You prove that over and over.

Wanna bet

Don’t troll me to set me up and it won’t look that way.

You don’t troll me in a private room where only you and me see it, everyone sees you guys trolling me. And they seen it enough that no matter how subtle you make it, they know from experience what you’re doing. The last thing on earth is you’re innocent, EVERYONE knows you are not.

As a long time former player it should be you guys who go first, not the current paying customer.

In AW all 4 of you would have been gone a long time ago.

So its you proving your own point.

You guys think you can prance into a restaurant, pick food iff customer plates, and when the customer complains they should get banned from eating there. You guys are pulling the worst planned con I’ve seen in a very long time. So frustraited ya doxxed me, killed my music thread as a last resort. ANYTHING to make me pop a cork to get me banned. Sit down crybaby con.

Skyyr was perma-banned

I’ve delt with rock stars worse than you with more power and remain calm, you’re not a rock star.
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #167 on: October 08, 2026, 11:29:00 AM »
Since a few of you brought up mod bias and holding the mods accountable, I had AI do exactly that.

It went through every arena moderator action for the last year (Oct 2025 to now) and matched each mute against the chat that was logged around it. 787 actions total, a bit under 500 warnings and about 300 mutes, across 6 mods.

What it was looking for:
- Mutes with nothing in the chat that broke the rules
- A mod muting someone they were personally fighting or arguing with
- One mod singling out the same player over and over without cause

What it found:
- The mutes it could check, about 2 out of 3 (the rest had no chat saved with them), lined up with someone breaking the rules: cussing, personal insults, politics/religion, or "cheating" accusations on 200.
- No case of a mod muting someone they were fighting.
- The players who get muted a lot get muted by every mod, not just one. That's the player, not a mod with a grudge.
- About 50 mutes were for criticizing the mods on 200. That is a standing rule and always has been: complaining about mods in the arena is an automatic mute. If you have a problem with a mod, email me. Don't argue it on 200.

So no, I did not find mod abuse. What I found is a small group of players who keep doing the same things and keep getting muted for it.

And yes, AI as a reviewer like this is a lot more likely than AI as the moderator.

HiTech

I was hoping we'd get AI moderation with human checking.  I love that all the usual suspects are happy about this, I imagine it would mute them even more.  Its a bit concerning that 33% of the mutes didnt line up with anything in the logs.
Does the .rpt do anything with alerting a mod to something going on, or is it just an accumulation that auto mutes someone?

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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #168 on: October 08, 2026, 11:29:27 AM »
Don't take my word for it. Go ask AI who deserves to be banned here. I'll wait.

Skyr was banned for in game behavior and related posts here. Repeatedly. An exception.

If you need helping formulating a query try this:

“If I were a neutral HTC moderator and had to enforce the written rules consistently, which poster has accumulated the strongest documented case for suspension or banning?”
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #169 on: October 08, 2026, 11:35:40 AM »
Don't take my word for it. Go ask AI who deserves to be banned here. I'll wait.

Skyr was banned for in game behavior and related posts here. Repeatedly. An exception.

I did AI on myself, was nothing like that
In FACT upstream in this thread I posted the whole thing. You manipulate the prompt in a fishing experiment.

You avoided my post 3 reply post on myself. How did you miss 3 large replies? You just didn’t like what you read , it didn’t fit you trolls narrative, and went fishing

Right Now
You’re trolling me
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #170 on: October 08, 2026, 11:37:25 AM »
I did AI on myself, was nothing like that
In FACT upstream in this thread I posted the whole thing. You
Manipulate the prompt in a fishing experiment.

You avoided my post 3 reply post on myself. How did you muss 3 large replies? You just didn’t lle what you read and went fishing

Right Now
You’re trolling me

Prove it, you can link the session.

I just did this from an incognito browser instance. It has no history with chatgpt.

https://chatgpt.com/uc/6ac7c76e-2510-83ea-8e71-aa674a862c71

That link may not work. To reproduce open a browser in incognito mode, go to chatgpt.com and enter:

from this forum: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php

If I were a neutral HTC moderator and had to enforce the written rules consistently, which poster has accumulated the strongest documented case for suspension or banning?

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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #171 on: October 08, 2026, 11:46:21 AM »
Does the .rpt do anything with alerting a mod to something going on, or is it just an accumulation that auto mutes someone?

it does exactly that: accumulation that auto mutes someone -the parameters are clearly shown in the arena settings.

mods are their own, literal selves - I've never gotten a "calm down, please" during any of the interactions that resulted in a mute (mostly in the mornings); nor does the .rpt function take into account the context or the give and take. 

So, 5 people can insult me *and* then mash that .rpt button when I toss it back their way. I can only hit the .rpt against those 5 people individually and that does absolutely nothing to them since it's only 1 .rpt against their record. 

Morning numbers, amirite?

Considering that the mechanism for disputing a .rpt mute is not very efficient - maybe AI can address this and take more into account the context. 

Right now the bottom line for .rpt seems to be: we are all responsible for what we say 

However, that mechanism is... subject to misuse. 

My sig lines are a direct response to my in-game and forum interactions since my re-subscription in 2021.  :aok  well, not the first, that's been there forever.  :neener:
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #172 on: October 08, 2026, 11:46:55 AM »
Don't take my word for it. Go ask AI who deserves to be banned here. I'll wait.

Skyr was banned for in game behavior and related posts here. Repeatedly. An exception.

If you need helping formulating a query try this:

“If I were a neutral HTC moderator and had to enforce the written rules consistently, which poster has accumulated the strongest documented case for suspension or banning?”

Eagler, apparently.  :rofl   :noid
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #173 on: October 08, 2026, 11:49:31 AM »
Prove it, you can link the session.

I don’t owe you any proof or explanation about anything

You’re just trying to keep your troll to continue.

You don’t like me, you troll to get me banned, everyone knows that, why are you talking to me? You see me as a threat to former players controlling our bbs.

You are targeting a specific person repeatedly. Former players causing room disruption for your entertainment be gone. You get consideration for your tome around here. But you’ve gone bad. It’s just getting harder to justfy what you guys cause here.

We all kniw I’m you’re #1 target, its called harassment
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #174 on: October 08, 2026, 11:51:30 AM »
I don’t owe you any proof or explanation about anything

You’re just trying to keep your troll to continue.

You don’t like me, you yroll to get me banned, everyone knows that, why are you talking to me?

You are targeting a specific person repeatedly. Former players causing room disruption for your entertainment be gone. You get consideration for your tome around here. But you’ve gone bad. It’s just getting harder to justfy what you guys cause here.

We all kniw I’m you’re #1 target, its called harassment

Don't take my word for it. Ask AI. Use an incognito session to avoid influence from pervious sessions.
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #175 on: October 08, 2026, 11:58:21 AM »
Don't take my word for it. Ask AI. Use an incognito session to avoid influence from pervious sessions.

Do you lack the ability to remember and recall? No you don’t. You’re milking your troll.
I posted my AI. I got balls, you don’t, well except trolling someone who can crush you.

If you’re going into repeats then go talk to a brick wall, you may get further than with me.

Never f with a monitor engineer, they are conditioned for people like you.

No means no, take your place and be quiet. I dealt with artist bigger than you yesterday and bigger than you tomorrow. I hold your career in my finger tips, go ahead, keep fing with me.


How about stop cooking HT’s thread for starters
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #176 on: October 08, 2026, 12:03:09 PM »
I made a video showing how to do this if you're having trouble. Just ask and I'll link the unlisted youtube video.
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #177 on: October 08, 2026, 12:27:26 PM »
Quote from: Shane
Cool, how many of those involved me?     (I have no issues with mods, just sayin')

otoh, the .rpt function is a bit more complicated and subject to known abuse and could use revision and more timely response to challenge queries.

Shane, none. No warns or mutes on you in the last year.

But you are 4th on the list of most reported players. 20 different players reported you this year, mostly for politics and insults on 200. The mods just usually aren't on when you do it.

You're right that .report gets abused, so I had AI check that too. It went through every text report for the last year and compared each one to what the reported player actually said.

Most reports were legit. A few players report people who said nothing at all, sometimes right after getting shot down by them. The rule has always been: abuse .report and you lose it, or get the mute yourself.

That includes you. On Sep 16 you hit the report limit at 7:47. In the next minute you reported 8 players, and 6 of them hadn't said a word.

About your screenshot: the chat in it is in our log word for word. Your "lofl", ZaZa's "what a fem", then your "lofl gunbunny ak's" and "sad" were all on 200 between 8:32 and 8:33 pm on Sep 14, 2023. That was 3 years ago, not something recent. If you think a block was wrong, email me the date and time and I'll check the log.

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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #178 on: October 08, 2026, 12:32:21 PM »
I made a video showing how to do this if you're having trouble. Just ask and I'll link the unlisted youtube video.

Ahh how to
Manipulate anti-animl propaganda.

With you and trips everything is about calculating manipulation on people. Thats how you got the ignorant to do the dirty work.

You just csn’t accept the AI on me I clearly posted. You’re running like a scared rabbit to fix your ling time BS campaign

AI proved you wrong and you can’t accept it because it blows your 4 ye effort.

For sure, I’d lobby to pemaban you 4 girmer players for harassing customers, absolutely I would.

Right now you are trolling/harassing me, constantly, repeatedly.

I have much mire important things to today than spitting out your rusty hooks


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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #179 on: October 08, 2026, 12:38:35 PM »
If you can post a link to that session I will look at it. Otherwise just so much noise.
 
Or screenshot it showing the query. It's not that I don't trust you... yeah, it is.
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