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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #300 on: October 12, 2026, 02:37:41 PM »
Look at this: 2017, not even started by me:-

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,389335.0.html

Not one concension since AH3 came out. Complaints about the MPA from the get-go. NOTHING to stem the flow of hordes ruining the gameplay for others. Three tiny bases turned back on to re-inject some fun back into what was once a fantastic hobby. Can you not empathise how bloody frustrating it is. Just give us back the lake is the tiny request we're making. Flying AH away from the hordes, ack-runners, bloody 88-mm, FLAK guns parked at the ends of the runway, score-potatos and bombers at 36k. FFS.

You'd think the ask was a Greek island + a Swiss bank account  :bhead

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« Reply #301 on: October 12, 2026, 03:14:51 PM »
I do not get this myopic theme on this forum. This bizarre "I won't need it so I can't allow it or won't approve of it" commentary is exactly the kind of intolerant thinking that painted this game into the corner it is now in in the first place. If you don't like Furball lake flying then simply don't show up there. No one's forcing you to play where you don't like it. Anymore than not reactivating the Lake would force me back into the MA while the hordes are fapping themselves silly winning the war only to have it all reset to the same starting point to gleefully start their 'work' all over like some endless Sisyphean nightmare.
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #302 on: October 12, 2026, 03:16:22 PM »
Look at this: 2017, not even started by me:-

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,389335.0.html

Not one concension since AH3 came out. Complaints about the MPA from the get-go. NOTHING to stem the flow of hordes ruining the gameplay for others. Three tiny bases turned back on to re-inject some fun back into what was once a fantastic hobby. Can you not empathise how bloody frustrating it is. Just give us back the lake is the tiny request we're making. Flying AH away from the hordes, ack-runners, bloody 88-mm, FLAK guns parked at the ends of the runway, score-potatos and bombers at 36k. FFS.

I think as my last resort before the last act is, if that Bish squad and Rook squad wants to play dirty every night, yet run like scared girls when equal force comes,…. Lets get ugly dirty with them, they think dirty is funny, lets get down to it and do dirty paybacks right.
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #303 on: October 12, 2026, 03:26:03 PM »
Sorry hassle was maybe the wrong word… I just meant it doesn’t feel like the juice is worth the squeeze. The number of A2A only just feels less than it used to be. I could be very wrong.

What hassle? It'd be an adjustment to the environmental configuration of an existent arena. If you don't want to fly at the lake don't. Some of us do is the point and there were a lot more of us before the game tipped way too far into the full-on base-taking focus. What a waste of a decent flight model.

What hassle? Implementing a set of already written code? Replacing a Steal The Sheep arena option that no one has set foot in for 10 years with a furball option instead? If it onlyu drew 10 - 20 players a day, what's the harm?
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« Reply #304 on: October 12, 2026, 03:36:59 PM »
The number of A2A only just feels less than it used to be.

Which is a direct product of an MA culture only promoting low risk flying in groups and fast planes with an over-emphasis on score, efficiency and results.

Is it impossible to grasp the underpinning proposition?
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« Reply #305 on: October 12, 2026, 03:39:14 PM »
Which is a direct product of an MA culture only promoting low risk flying in groups and fast planes with an over-emphasis on score, efficiency and results.

Is it impossible to grasp the underpinning proposition?

That sounds like a highly subjective view and that’s ok. I don’t have any problem with main arena gameplay. Sometimes two countries gang up on a third sometimes it’s balanced sometimes it’s not. I’ve seen people already today describe events from the couple hours I was logged in last night that didn’t match my experience at all

In fact, the last three or four nights in the MA have been pretty fun. I started flying the NIK and now I can’t get out of it.
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« Reply #306 on: October 12, 2026, 03:59:49 PM »
That sounds like a highly subjective view and that’s ok.

Tell me where is the structural catch which will stop what happened to Euro, Japanese and Antipodean players from happening to the U.S. players?

Where are The Few? Or the Nippon Hatahata Gyogyou Kyoudoukumiai? Or the multiple RAF-themed squads?

Coming soon to your location exactly the same non-linear collapse. I know how AH ends because I watched it end for a lot of non-Prime-US-timezone players including myself  Yet some of you know best or have ideas you're saving for a rainy day or new initiatives which just haven't been tried yet.
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« Reply #307 on: October 12, 2026, 04:02:48 PM »
Sorry hassle was maybe the wrong word… I just meant it doesn’t feel like the juice is worth the squeeze. The number of A2A only just feels less than it used to be. I could be very wrong.

You're not wrong, but you are in the sense that the juice is worth the squeeze.  There are less "fighter-type", less so "fighter skwads" these days - I kind of shamed the BT's into taking a broader active role in base ops. Before they were mostly air suppression primarily yaks, now we see some of them in buffs. Simply because of lower (generally morning) numbers.  Many fighter-types basically "bordeom" out of game play and subscription, some grow and experience the broader options available (like me.)

However, there still exists a number of fighter types that wouldn't mind access to the quicker action that the old da/furball lake. If it were available. I think it might see subscription activity. Swapping the "Steal the Sheep" or one of the two unused ww1 arenas doesn't feel like it would take much effort.

Players can and have made free custom arenas, but that has never carried the same appeal and hasn't been a consistent offer.

MA maps have generally tried to provide space for FigherTown or Tank Town areas, but they no longer function in that sense except rarely.  Quite a few maps make the middle mix it up area gv-only; I would make sure those areas are both plane and gv friendly, fwiw.



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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #308 on: October 12, 2026, 04:11:37 PM »
Tell me where is the structural catch which will stop what happened to Euro, Japanese and Antipodean players from happening to the U.S. players?

Where are The Few? Or the Nippon Hatahata Gyogyou Kyoudoukumiai? Or the multiple RAF-themed squads?

Coming soon to your location exactly the same non-linear collapse. I know how AH ends because I watched it end for a lot of non-Prime-US-timezone players including myself  Yet some of you know best or have ideas you're saving for a rainy day or new initiatives which just haven't been tried yet.

lol you left out the rest of my quote that answers that. I’m not against whatever you all want, just offering a reasons to why it’s not here.
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« Reply #309 on: October 12, 2026, 04:13:35 PM »
You're not wrong, but you are in the sense that the juice is worth the squeeze.  There are less "fighter-type", less so "fighter skwads" these days - I kind of shamed the BT's into taking a broader active role in base ops. Before they were mostly air suppression primarily yaks, now we see some of them in buffs. Simply because of lower (generally morning) numbers.  Many fighter-types basically "bordeom" out of game play and subscription, some grow and experience the broader options available (like me.)

However, there still exists a number of fighter types that wouldn't mind access to the quicker action that the old da/furball lake. If it were available. I think it might see subscription activity. Swapping the "Steal the Sheep" or one of the two unused ww1 arenas doesn't feel like it would take much effort.

Players can and have made free custom arenas, but that has never carried the same appeal and hasn't been a consistent offer.

MA maps have generally tried to provide space for FigherTown or Tank Town areas, but they no longer function in that sense except rarely.  Quite a few maps make the middle mix it up area gv-only; I would make sure those areas are both plane and gv friendly, fwiw.

Maybe then, that’s the business decision that was made even if it was only a handful of people. There are more hours in the day than there are not where a handful of players could turn the main area from actionable into stale.

I already have a number personally that happens for for me. I don’t know what the company number is. I’m not against whatever you all want like I said above just offering possible reasons why?

I also have less issues than most people that’s my problem I guess lol
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« Reply #310 on: October 12, 2026, 04:36:54 PM »
I think as my last resort before the last act is, if that Bish squad

Didn't mean to disregard your post Animal. Have spent some time doing that. Have hunted and trapped J0ker many times. Once shot his F4U-1a down in a Mosquito and he came back in an F4U-4 with even more alt and I shot that down too. Caught him looking for me at altitude after I shot some of his bombers down. Climbed to co-e and cleaved his 4Hog in twain with a glorious burst of 600-yard 30-mm after he choked on the merge. Got both J0ker and his wingman in a memorable single rope one day. Dived through a massive horde and killed their C-47 while over a dozen chased me. Honourable death for the Emperor. Overshot and shot him many times. Got enough material for an epic YouTube vid if I could be arsed at this stage.

Fact is you cannot teach players like this a lesson. I once put a 30-mm right through his forehead. Missed his brain completely!
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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #311 on: October 12, 2026, 04:42:20 PM »
I think y'all are missing the point. If it HT wanted numbers he would create some sort of FTP planeset or something but it appears that he is under the impression that all you guys paying monthly would stop  subbing and go to a FTP account. My kids might play from time to time if there was such a thing but I'm not willing to pay 60 a month to play with my kids once in a while. I'm sad to say that I think the ship has sailed for me on returning with all the venom I've experienced from a few neurotic ankle biters, the gangbanging, mods in game etc, however, I would still love to see the game be successful for all the great guys that are still left although more then half of them are gone now.

WWII online showed with their builder accounts showed that not everyone drops their subscription when there's a FTP option. The builder accounts pay TWICE the normal subscription per month and all they get is a tag on their name that says builder. (I can't verify this is still the case but it was last time I played)




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« Reply #312 on: October 12, 2026, 04:42:52 PM »
I once put a 30-mm right through his forehead. Missed his brain completely!

That's sig line material right there, mister!

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Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #313 on: October 12, 2026, 09:05:11 PM »
cant we all just get along?!!

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« Reply #314 on: October 12, 2026, 09:27:13 PM »
cant we all just get along?!!

You new here? :cheers:
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