Idea to alternative to replace AWACS radar

[Animl-AW]

I liked the dar system fine.

Sure I can be looking around for 15 minutes before finding a fight or look at the clipboard and know where to go.  If I had to spend all my time looking around, what do I do with my beer, sandwich, snacks, and phone text conversations?

Letting Hitech know that not all of us want it to change.

Same thing changed in the beginning, the chosen few.

[LilMak]

ITS A VIDEO GAME!!!

Some of you need to get over yourselves a tad. So if I don’t do it without the clipboard open, just because I like to see where people are mostly my own country and what’s going on while I’m flying I’m somehow doing it wrong?

Why would anyone new want to come around here with that silliness.

Seeing your countrymen has always been part of the clipboard and has nothing to do with AWACS. You can see every player on your team all the time right now. Always been that way. I’m not advocating to take that part away. I’m not saying you’re doing anything wrong either. You’re using the tools given as we all do. What I am saying is enemy (and only enemy) radar icons outside tower range should not be a thing. It’s an imbalance to the air game because it favors the group (within a sector or so) that has the most numbers (see horde).

Why do I hate it? Because I remember what the game was like before it was instituted and it was better. Much better. You could have fights and take one or two out before a fleet of pickers overwhelmed you like it was world war Z. If you lost sight of your prey, you couldn’t just bring up the clipboard to figure out where the red guy was. Aircraft didn’t turn away from you before you were even in in range. Groups of players didn’t sit like middle schooler on opposite sides of the gym because they were afraid to be the first ones on the dance floor. Aggressive players weren’t crippled by overwhelming odds. Goons were still viable as tools for base capture. You could limp away after a fight you barely won and have a chance to make it home. Your plane didn’t need to be capable of 400mph to occasionally escape a fight. You didn’t need to be at 15k just to be semi-competitive. On and on and on.

[Dadtallica]

Sorry there is just not enough people to be constantly looking for things.

Is this is why anyone stopped playing then they need new hobbies. Try not to take everything so seriously. Nothing is perfect.

[Animl-AW]

Run a poll on clipboard in game. Bbs can be very deceiving of a select few. Bbs is not the full masses

[LilMak]

Sorry there is just not enough people to be constantly looking for things.

Is this is why anyone stopped playing then they need new hobbies. Try not to take everything so seriously. Nothing is perfect.

It wasn’t perfect before. And I’m not saying we should revert to exactly how it was. I’m actually proposing changes that would allow the finding of enemy aircraft without the bias against bieng out numbered that is now prevalent. There are enough people if we make some adjustments.

Everyone keeps talking about how they can’t find action. What about players like me who have zero problems with that because we’re plowing into the biggest red swarm we can find. What happens when I quit because the fun that I found for years can’t be attained anymore without spoon feeding others information they don’t NEED but really just kinda want. How fun will it be for you to have AWACS but no one is there to be found because players like me are getting tired of being punching bags for folks who can’t be bothered to fly an acres minute or two to actually get in icon range and look out the window?

AWACS is the only setting that I’m aware of that has literally caused players (documented) to quit the game. The only one. Let’s fix it and send out some invitations.

[Dadtallica]

Run a poll on clipboard in game. Bbs can be very deceiving of a select few. Bbs is not the full masses

It’s open for copy and pasting lol

Nobody has to keep pointing out it’s possible just the BBS people answer lol. It was literally in the original post. In fact that would be the better thing to have on the clipboard where you can open the BBS in the game or just a link to it. It’s certainly possible people don’t even know this existence, but still play the game.

So far 31 people have responded.

[Dadtallica]

It wasn’t perfect before. And I’m not saying we should revert to exactly how it was. I’m actually proposing changes that would allow the finding of enemy aircraft without the bias against bieng out numbered that is now prevalent. There are enough people if we make some adjustments.

Everyone keeps talking about how they can’t find action. What about players like me who have zero problems with that because we’re plowing into the biggest red swarm we can find. What happens when I quit because the fun that I found for years can’t be attained anymore without spoon feeding others information they don’t NEED but really just kinda want. How fun will it be for you to have AWACS but no one is there to be found because players like me are getting tired of being punching bags for folks who can’t be bothered to fly an acres minute or two to actually get in icon range and look out the window?

AWACS is the only setting that I’m aware of that has literally caused players (documented) to quit the game. The only one. Let’s fix it and send out some invitations.

I’m always up for trying new things.

We are trying 45 second delay right now… we should stop trying that one lol.

[Animl-AW]

I’m always up for trying new things.

We are trying 45 second delay right now… we should stop trying that one lol.

I’m not digging the 45 sec. Now we gone from too much info to deceiving info.

I’m totally burned out on this convo. Trying to appease a small group. Just put something in place and move on. 45 sec is nonsense in my lamer opinion, at that point just turn it off totally. I don’t care what it is, lets argue about something new.

[Banshee7]

Why do I hate it? Because I remember what the game was like before it was instituted and it was better. Much better. You could have fights and take one or two out before a fleet of pickers overwhelmed you like it was world war Z. If you lost sight of your prey, you couldn’t just bring up the clipboard to figure out where the red guy was. Aircraft didn’t turn away from you before you were even in in range. Groups of players didn’t sit like middle schooler on opposite sides of the gym because they were afraid to be the first ones on the dance floor. Aggressive players weren’t crippled by overwhelming odds. Goons were still viable as tools for base capture. You could limp away after a fight you barely won and have a chance to make it home. Your plane didn’t need to be capable of 400mph to occasionally escape a fight. You didn’t need to be at 15k just to be semi-competitive. On and on and on.

  

[Dadtallica]

I’m not digging the 45 sec. Now we gone from too much info to deceiving info.

I’m totally burned out on this convo. Trying to appease a small group. Just put something in place and move on. 45 sec is nonsense in my lamer opinion, at that point just turn it off totally. I don’t care what it is, lets argue about something new.

We agree on something! Now, if you could just agree that Paris is the capital of France we’re in business!

I do not like it at all and if it sticks around, it will take a lot of getting used to because last night. I flew in a lot of circles alone.

[LilMak]

I’m not digging the 45 sec. Now we gone from too much info to deceiving info.

I’m totally burned out on this convo. Trying to appease a small group. Just put something in place and move on. 45 sec is nonsense in my lamer opinion, at that point just turn it off totally. I don’t care what it is, lets argue about something new.

Which small group? Dad’s own survey came in 57 to 19 for reversion to dot dar?

This thing where people can’t find each other without AWACS is just baffling to me. I literally spent two hours by myself trying to spark a fight on the Knight/Bish front last night by myself while the Rooks got pounded. Three pilots upped to meet me (Shoutout to Obsidian, Mothman, Cherokee6 for some good fights). There was no circling. No one was lost. No one was hiding. Half a map to fly around in and I found the only guys who could be bothered to get in a plane and lift off the runway.

[Dadtallica]

Which small group? Dad’s own survey came in 57 to 19 for reversion to dot dar?

This thing where people can’t find each other without AWACS is just baffling to me. I literally spent two hours by myself trying to spark a fight on the Knight/Bish front last night by myself while the Rooks got pounded. Three pilots upped to meet me (Shoutout to Obsidian, Mothman, Cherokee6 for some good fights). There was no circling. No one was lost. No one was hiding. Half a map to fly around in and I found the only guys who could be bothered to get in a plane and lift off the runway.

The poll question was about dots not about time and yes right now most people prefer dots or don’t care. You could have it look like gummy bears, and I wouldn’t care that’s not my issue.

The 45 second timer is no fun. Did you try it?

[LilMak]

The poor question was about dots not about time and yes right now most people prefer dots or don’t care. You could have it look like gummy bears, and I wouldn’t care that’s not my issue.

The 45 second timer is no fun. Did you try it?

You realize that dot dar did NOT include AWACS right? A revision to that system would not include every plane and GV is a radar tower. Only radar towers provided “dots”. No AWACS.

If the 45 second timer was on last night. I did try it. Still found the three pilots in all of Bishdom (as well as a wirb by shadowx) who could be bothered to do anything about my attacks.

[hitech]

You realize that dot dar did NOT include AWACS right? A revision to that system would not include every plane and GV is a radar tower. Only radar towers provided “dots”. No AWACS.

If the 45 second timer was on last night. I did try it. Still found the three pilots in all of Bishdom (as well as a wirb by shadowx) who could be bothered to do anything about my attacks.

We are not going back. And you would do well to not point the finger at other people not wanting to play your way.

HiTech

[Dadtallica]

You realize that dot dar did NOT include AWACS right? A revision to that system would not include every plane and GV is a radar tower. Only radar towers provided “dots”. No AWACS.

If the 45 second timer was on last night. I did try it. Still found the three pilots in all of Bishdom (as well as a wirb by shadowx) who could be bothered to do anything about my attacks.

That was then my friend, this is now. We’re in now now.



Like I said, I don’t care what the picture is. I just don’t like the timer. I also think AWACS is a bit disingenuous for people to keep tossing around.