Idea to alternative to replace AWACS radar

[JimmyD3]

I believe the previous delay was 5 seconds and the current one is 45 seconds but only Hitech can answer that with certainty.

That is correct, it was 5 seconds and is now 45, as listed in the Arena Tables of the MA.

[Animl-AW]

45 is a little long.
I say 30
LilMak says 35

It's almost useless at 45. To look is deceiving, better off not.

[Dadtallica]

45 is a little long.
I say 30
LilMak says 35

It's almost useless at 45. To look is deceiving, better off not.

It was fine the way it was 30/35 will be the same as 45.

If a plane is underneath me, it shouldn’t take several seconds to show up be beneath me on a clipboard map IN A VIDEO GAME. This has nothing to do about finding a fight or hiding hoardes or blah blah blah.

I just don’t like it and I also don’t feel it fits with what we have. The subjectivity of this game is its strength. This is mine. 

When you only play for a hour or so, at a clip half your time is going to be spent getting somewhere. If I wanted my situational awareness to be December 1943, I would go find a game that did thaT. There’s a reason I found this one… for decades.

Not everything has to be the most realistic thing ever. There just isn’t enough people.

[Animl-AW]

It was fine the way it was 30/35 will be the same as 45.

If a plane is underneath me, it shouldn’t take several seconds to show up be beneath me on a clipboard map IN A VIDEO GAME. This has nothing to do about finding a fight or hiding hoardes or blah blah blah.

I just don’t like it and I also don’t feel it fits with what we have. The subjectivity of this game is its strength. This is mine. 

When you only play for a hour or so, at a clip half your time is going to be spent getting somewhere. If I wanted my situational awareness to be December 1943, I would go find a game that did thaT. There’s a reason I found this one… for decades.

Not everything has to be the most realistic thing ever. There just isn’t enough people.

Some of us have been saying realism is scenarios and fso. MA is the game part and for practice.

Some players say too much time sitting. Which is not true. If you run a squad mission and need 2-3 sectors to get alt it’s the same time sitting doing nothing. Except in scenarios your efforts put you in a huge battle. MA missions may not deliver that at all. I think those who say it just can’t handle a huge furball. A lot of comments from the sandbox are just erroneous.

[Lazerr]

I liked the thrill of having to look over my shoulder again personally.  I also caught a few people not paying attention very well, you can tell a lot of folks were using it as a crutch.

The 45 seconds for dar to refresh gives you alot of time to close in on bad guys not looking around.

I'd still cut the range down to 4k for planes, even less or 0 for gvs.

[The Fugitive]

It was fine the way it was 30/35 will be the same as 45.

If a plane is underneath me, it shouldn’t take several seconds to show up be beneath me on a clipboard map IN A VIDEO GAME. This has nothing to do about finding a fight or hiding hoardes or blah blah blah.

I just don’t like it and I also don’t feel it fits with what we have. The subjectivity of this game is its strength. This is mine. 

When you only play for a hour or so, at a clip half your time is going to be spent getting somewhere. If I wanted my situational awareness to be December 1943, I would go find a game that did thaT. There’s a reason I found this one… for decades.

Not everything has to be the most realistic thing ever. There just isn’t enough people.

This radar was introduced well after the Steam connection. The old radar was a lot tougher. If a plane was under you you should be rolling and scanning to spot it. That is how you flew. Every few seconds you checked your views and added a roll just to keep an eye on the immediate airspace. If you didn't, you were in the tower pretty quick.

I havent had a chance to try out the new settings. I just back from my grandbabies birthday in Vegas. I hope to give it a try tonight, maybe tomorrow. Its not about being realistic, its about giving players a chance to fight with out a horde descending on them the second one guy paints him with dar showing everyone else on that team were a single con is.

[Animl-AW]

The 45 mentally throws one off.  You’re better off not going by dar.
It certainly changed the game, not sure if that is good or bad. One player got frustrated and decided to take s break from the game, one logged off. 3 said it destroyed it. Only a few praised it on 200

[Animl-AW]

I think a poll should run on clipboard

[LilMak]

It was fine the way it was 30/35 will be the same as 45.

If a plane is underneath me, it shouldn’t take several seconds to show up be beneath me on a clipboard map IN A VIDEO GAME. This has nothing to do about finding a fight or hiding hoardes or blah blah blah.

I just don’t like it and I also don’t feel it fits with what we have. The subjectivity of this game is its strength. This is mine. 

When you only play for a hour or so, at a clip half your time is going to be spent getting somewhere. If I wanted my situational awareness to be December 1943, I would go find a game that did thaT. There’s a reason I found this one… for decades.

Not everything has to be the most realistic thing ever. There just isn’t enough people.

Really? You’re upset you can’t see through your plane without the clipboard? If a plane is underneath you, it takes zero seconds to see them by looking out the window. Maybe a half a second if you have roll the plane to see under your wing.

I think you just need an adjustment period to get over your clipboard addiction. Just exercise that atrophied hat switch digit and it’ll get better.

I think a poll should run on clipboard

That’s absolutely hilarious! I guess it needs to run on the clipboard because that’s the only way 3/4 of the “pilots” will ever see it!

[hazmatt]

I've also seen lots of videos of players leaving the clipboard up permanently and positioning and sizing it like it was a dashboard radar screen.

Guilty.

[Animl-AW]

How a player flies or uses clipboard is person preference, not for someone to police.

Running a poll on clipboard helps ensure that we are not upsetting the masses to please a few on bbs.

That said 200 was not consumed with negatives. But we cannot afford any players.

[popeye]

If the radar update rate remains relatively long (more than 10 seconds), it would be useful if the most recent radar picture was immediately displayed to a player when he first logs into the arena.  Otherwise, the arena looks very dead until the radar updates.  Maybe not a good first impression for newer players (or those who are unaware that the update rate has been changed).

(Not a big deal if it's difficult to do...)

[Animl-AW]

If the radar update rate remains relatively long (more than 10 seconds), it would be useful if the most recent radar picture was immediately displayed to a player when he first logs into the arena.  Otherwise, the arena looks very dead until the radar updates.  Maybe not a good first impression for newer players (or those who are unaware that the update rate has been changed).

(Not a big deal if it's difficult to do...)

I had the same thought.

[Banshee7]

Guilty.

I am also guilty, but it was not for a lack of SA.  I always kept the clipboard up to make sure the fight hadn't shifted to another base or front, seeing that fights seems to shift more quickly now. Once I got anywhere near the fight I actually used SA.

[Animl-AW]

Actually running clipboard polls on some changes, not just this one, could be helpful on the pulse of the players.

It’s the purest way to have a poll.

While good intensions, a poll with a link to anyone who visits bbs and sees or receives it is subject to skewed results. Not all will be subscribers.

In game to subscribers is much more pure results.